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Man with concealed gun arrested at bus station
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Saw this in the paper today.


http://www.timesleader.com/news/loca...at-bus-station

WILKES-BARRE — A man with a handgun concealed in his waistband was arrested at the downtown bus station Monday after he allegedly refused to show his permit to carry a concealed weapon to police.

Hules was transported to Wilkes-Barre City Police Headquarters were he was processed and charged with violation of the Firearms Act — proof of license required on demand; criminal trespass/defiant trespass; and disorderly conduct by unreasonable noise.
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#2
He's probably an active user on the other site. I think he might be mixing up the rules between OC and CC.
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The link isn't working for me. What was the initial reason for co tact that lead to the discovery of the firearm?

Was it in a waistband holster or stupid carry?
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Ten*K;136023 Wrote:The link isn't working for me. What was the initial reason for co tact that lead to the discovery of the firearm?

Was it in a waistband holster or stupid carry?

Try this link. My take is that the man was OC, so refusal to show LTCF/ID is legit, but refusing to leave the premises claiming "constitutional rights" was dumb.

Assuming, of course, the 'facts' in the article are accurate.
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#5
Looks like he possibly was right. "Dead" right.

The facility seems to be a municipal facility, where preemption prevails. That some tenant or contractor wasn't comfortable carries no weight in that facility.

So there was likely no probable cause in the first place.

It isn't clear if he was OC or badly concealed.

That they hauled him in on the "disorderly conduct" catch-all because he raised his voice (excessive noise) pretty much shows that they really had no basis.

However he shouldn't confuse his 2nd Amendment rights with the very specific provisions of PA law that allowed him to be where he was, what he was doing, and be unmolested.
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No violation happens until you are officially arrested and if you produce your LTCF at that time, there is no violation. So what this police officer thinks he was doing is questionable. What is apparent is this is nothing less than the officer not reading and understanding the law to full blown intimidation. No one can be arrested for failure to provide if they provide it upon arrest, so.....
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ExcelToExcel;136095 Wrote:No violation happens until you are officially arrested and if you produce your LTCF at that time, there is no violation. So what this police officer thinks he was doing is questionable. What is apparent is this is nothing less than the officer not reading and understanding the law to full blown intimidation. No one can be arrested for failure to provide if they provide it upon arrest, so.....

...the officer arrested him for "disorderly conduct," which is what they do if you tell a cop "no" or if they don't like your attitude, or just need a reason.
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