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Marines Disarmed for Obama's Second Inaugural Parade
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MrPeanut;79086 Wrote:There is a big difference between an empty weapon and one that has been intentionally rendered non-functional.

And rendered obviously inoperable. This is the point I've been trying to make, probably poorly. In the pic I linked from GWB's 2005 inauguration, the M14s had bolts in them. Did they have firing pins removed or barrels plugged? Don't know. You can't tell by looking. And THAT is what's weird about this. Not only were these Marines' M14s unloaded and inoperable, but they were made obviously inoperable so that anyone looking from a distance would know that they couldn't be fired. It's akin to having the barrel plugged with bright orange. Sure seems like someone wanted to be damned sure at a glance that those rifles couldn't fire, and that's what's different than any other time in the past. So again, who wanted to know and why?
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#42
Hats off Justin for standing on the side of sanity. But at some point you need to pull up the zipper and come in from the wind. The hate and assigning of the most evil motives are embedded in stone with some here.
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#43
Dave;79155 Wrote:Hats off Justin for standing on the side of sanity. But at some point you need to pull up the zipper and come in from the wind. The hate and assigning of the most evil motives are embedded in stone with some here.

Sometimes people like to use their brains and ask "why". As in "why would anyone think that removing a bolt and exposing a greasy rifle chamber to Marines' dress blues makes any sense at all?" or "why wasn't leaving the rifles unloaded or without firing pins adequate?" or "how does removing one ounce of weight make a Marine's life easier?".

Other people it seems are content to not wonder about such things and just accept what they are told. By the way, how was American Idol last night, Dave?
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thebearpack;79160 Wrote:Other people it seems are content to not wonder about such things and just accept what they are told. By the way, how was American Idol last night, Dave?

Save the silly childish insults for those that may care about them. If thinking you remain one of the few with sight in a world of blind sheep makes you feel better, have at it. You also remain free to consider all as a evil plot if you wish - it really makes no difference to me other than pure entertainment.
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#45
Dave;79163 Wrote:Save the silly childish insults for those that may care about them.

Sure, you don't care. You just had to get your "educated" opinion in though, even though you can't seem to answer the questions either.

Quote:You also remain free to consider all as a evil plot if you wish - it really makes no difference to me other than pure entertainment.

If you really were just being entertained, you wouldn't have chimed in; you likely would have sat on the sidelines and watched. Yet here you are telling us (me) how silly we are yet you can't offer any insight or answers. Typical for you really, on the other site and this one: a whole lot of blather and no substance.
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#46
LOL Answer if I watched American Idol? Umm, never seen more than a few bits over the years and not last night. But I just googled that its on Wed and Thurs. but for some reason you knew that. But what if I had? So what? I did watch Survivor, which I do enjoy. Again, so what? What special insight into the world do you now have because I watch and enjoy Survivor? How does my liking it make you more caring or thoughtful about any issue?

I will care the day such childish insults removes a penny from my bank account or forces me to go to work, until then, YES - it amuses me.
And how do you know what motivates me to reply? I told you it entertains me. Please do post proof otherwise.

And lastly, exactly what proof and answers should I be posting? We are all aware of those who post any silliness and hide behind the fig leaf of "I'm just asking a question" We saw this sickness after 9/11. We saw it recently with Newtown. And now we see it here.

Its actually on YOU to post proof if you have any that Obama and his cronies ordered this. Do you have any? Anything? I'm not sure when it became fashionable to be able to yell out anything, no matter how improbable and then stomp ones feet when there is no way to disprove the negative. You guys came up with the theory, now put some meet on it. Or at the very least don't get your panties in a bunch if there are some who may not buy your theory. Or at least post just one - any - sort of proof that its true. Have any you care to share? If so, I will amend my thinking.
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#47
billamj;79085 Wrote:
JustinHEMI;78937 Wrote:This seems to suggest that deactivating rifles is standard security protocol.

http://www.vmi.edu/Content.aspx?id=10737423536

“We had to go through security, which was probably the longest part of the day because all of our rifles had to be checked,” he said. “Every rifle had to go through … to make sure there weren’t any firing pins.”

Justin

UM, VMI is not a military unit. You know better than that Justin.

They follow the same rules. Well done at missing the point and ignoring everything else.

Justin
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JustinHEMI;79237 Wrote:
billamj;79085 Wrote:UM, VMI is not a military unit. You know better than that Justin.

They follow the same rules. Well done at missing the point and ignoring everything else.

Justin

I get it now Justin, you play semantic games and then show an immense dislike for them when others follow suit.
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#49
billamj;79240 Wrote:
JustinHEMI;79237 Wrote:They follow the same rules. Well done at missing the point and ignoring everything else.

Justin

I get it now Justin, you play semantic games and then show an immense dislike for them when others follow suit.

LOLWUT?

Justin
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#50
Late to the game on this one but locking the bolt open is pretty lame. If you watch the changing of the guard in Arlington at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier if I remember correctly the commander makes the guard present his m14 and inspects it and its chamber in a very specific and impressive fashion. I assume those m14's at the tomb are functional and loaded but welding the bolt open seems to limit the options of what they can do. The sounds the bolt makes makes the presentation more impressive IMO.
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