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Maryland Governor to Tax Rain!
#1
These Democrats are out of their fucking minds! WTF? Why do the American people stand for this shit??

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...taxes-rain

Quote:Maryland Democratic Governor Martin O’Malley has instituted a tax on citizens for the amount of rain that falls on their property.

The tax, officially known as a "storm water management fee," will be enforced in nine of the state's counties. The state legislature passed it in 2012 purportedly to "raise revenue to cleanup [sic] the Chesapeake Bay," according to MarylandReporter.com.

Former 2012 GOP U.S. Senate candidate Dan Bongino bashes the tax in a Wednesday afternoon press release. The law "requires individuals, businesses, and even charitable organizations and houses of worship to pay a tax based on the amount of rain that falls on their property and the 'impervious surfaces' on their land," he says.

The tax, mandated by the EPA and enforced locally, will be calculated "through satellite surveillance of your property," the statement claims.
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#2
The Beatles nailed it:

"Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

Don't ask me what I want it for
If you don't want to pay some more
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Now my advice for those who die
Declare the pennies on your eyes
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman
And you're working for no one but me."
I don't suffer from insanity.
I enjoy every minute of it.
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#3
I had to double check, I thought i was reading an article from The Onion.
"That’s no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad."
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#4
I've been paying stormwater charges on my water bill for ever.

Philadelphia Water Dept. maintains meticulous maps (that have found their way for a variety of other uses, namely to track vacant lots), showing how much of your property is pervious and impervious and the precise surveyed boundary lines.

It makes assessments more accurate because the computers are better at calculating land area that the old way of generalizing land area from similar properties.

If you cover your entire land with impervious surfaces and drain it off into the sewer system you're putting the maximum amount of pressure on municipal services. If you leave much of your property pervious, more of that stormwater soaks in to your lot and you transfer less pressure to the wastewater system.

The more impervious property lots are, the more likely the City will be forced to dump untreated sewage directly into waterways. For downstream water customers the more often this happens the more costly it is to maintain water purification equipment.


For Philly the City is only able to absorb about a half inch of rain in a 5 hour period before it starts throwing raw sewage into the Frankford Creek which leads to the Delaware and other output tunnels. To dig up the whole city to split sewage from stormwater for 580K properties in the City would cost over $40BN... money that surely the taxpayers would not want to pay under any circumstance.

Atlanta has been rebuilding its sewer systems at extreme costs only because it's finally forced to do it--they have to recycle greywater otherwise because droughts down there in Georgia throw the city into crisis mode with the government telling you that you can't water your lawn, and if it escalated high enough, the local government would then start making certain appliances illegal (old clothes washers vs. the newer ones which use less water) and fixtures too (low flow toilets).


San Antonio, TX is a city in a water crisis right now---they use one of the world's largest underground artesian acquifers as the sole source of their drinking water and since TX has been in a 4 year long drought the water levels have reached their lowest levels since recordkeeping began. Without water, people will have to evacuate or the Feds will have to start trucking it in. Water is very dense and very uneconomical to transport. The surface lakes around San Antonio are also running bone dry.

Las Vegas is going through the same crisis with Lake Mead.
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#5
When I use 1CCF a month (which is about what I normally use), the stormwater charge comes out to be almost the same as my water charge.

I'm not really crying over my water bill. No gigantic yard to mow. If you have 3+ acres, it makes more sense to drill a well and power it with solar panels to charge an array of car batteries and a nice big 120V/220V inverter to power the pump.

My folks faced drought water rates and they plunked down the dough to drill a well and have never looked back. Once they laid out the $9,000 to go down 500 feet get past the briny water, they hit paydirt and now have it connected to their massive sprinkler system. It's more than paid for itself--their house is still on city water and they're down to 2CCF a month in the house while they use about 100-200CCF a month for the land.

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The frustrating thing about my water bill is that is the ONLY bill that I have that is paid the old school way: Post Office. They charge a bogus fee to take card payments and they do not do electronic billing at all. The other city owned utility, PGW for gas, does e-billing and charges less for card payments.

I wind up not paying the bill for 3 months and just wait til I get a pink notice from the water department and that's when I bother to pay it.
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#6
This is insane. Next they will tax you on the air you breath and CO2 you exhale to combat global warming.
Live Free or Die
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#7
Sewer fees are nothing new, some municipalities charge based on your water usage. In my town I pay a yearly flat rate of $250.
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#8
Jon Doe;94984 Wrote:This is insane. Next they will tax you on the air you breath and CO2 you exhale to combat global warming.

It's a sewer fee/charge. This is not a new concept invented in a liberal cave somewhere in Berkeley.

It penalizes older combination sewer+stormwater systems that combine stormwater and sewage into one network, common along the East Coast, rather than the more eco-friendly split system where stormwater is allowed to bypass treatment plants and dump into rivers and the ocean while only sewage is dealt with. The old systems do not work when there are heavy rainstorms---sewage plans lock their intakes during those events and pretty much everything that goes into the sewer system immediately goes into the waterways completely untreated, including all sewage in the network.

The money from stormwater fees is normally to help increase stormwater and flood abatement in projects set up around the network to reduce the flow of stormwater getting into the system. i.e. building berms and traps to hold rainwater longer on the surface, finding dead parking lots and removing them so they're pervious again, building diversion tunnels and canals to pull more water away from the network, etc.

Philly's been using this charge to upgrade its ancient water system for the last 20 years. The sewer networks under my street is still completely 100% brick and timber framed and until pumps were put in to pull it up to a treatment station in Bridesburg--dumped right into the Delaware.
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#9
I understand why they'd want to do this, but I believe it's more of a move to bring in more revenue than to really allocate it JUST for water management.
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#10
Chesapeake Bay is gigantic. "Cleaning it" ain't like scrubbing a toilet. Someone better toss some FOIA bombs over the wall to see where they've actually allocated those funds to, who are the contractors receiving the revenue, etc.

I'm kinda surprised a state is implementing this stuff b/c normally these kinds of taxes/fees are done in a metro area, sometimes with a state edict to do it. The EPA really pointed a gun at MD and told them to institute these charges? I don't buy that.
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