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Nevada ranch the next Waco/Ruby Ridge?
#21
One thing is for sure, it was never (really) about tortoises...
http://rt.com/usa/desert-tortoises-eutha...evada-024/
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#22
Quote:I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight.

Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it.

There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972.

These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars.

These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management.

They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches.

My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money's against the ranchers.

They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they're own grazing fees.

When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren't doing their job.

He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes.

In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn't work, they used the indangered species card.

You've already heard about the desert tortis. Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years.

Now their desperate. It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff.

Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America.

Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" Well, I'll tell you.

They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again.

Next, it's Utah's turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.

Then there's the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn't paid them, those cattle do belong to him.

Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even exsisted.

Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad's signature on it.

They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker.

Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money.

They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars.

See how slick they are?
-By Shiree Bundy Cox, Clive Bundy's daughter
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#23
From the perspectives of some pro gun Nevada residents...
Nevada Shooters Forum
http://www.nevadashooters.com/showthread...609&page=1
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#24
FWIW...

A Nevada militia has been put on alert.
http://snmilitia.webs.com/apps/forums/to...?page=last
Quote:AS OF THIS DATE, I AM UPGRADING THE READINESS LEVEL OF THIS UNIT TO CONDITION RED. YOU ARE TO TRAVEL WITH 72 HR KITS IN YOUR VEHICLES AT ALL TIMES AND HAVE AT LEAST 6 DAYS OF WATER AND FOOD. CHECK YOUR FIRST AID KITS AND ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE NECESSARY MEDICATIONS STOCKED FOR LONG TERM NEEDS. ALSO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ADEQUATE SELF DEFENSE SUPPLIES. TRAINING WILL GO ON AS SCHEDULED THIS SATURDAY, BUT THE TRAINING MAY CHANGE. THE SITUATION IN BUNKERVILLE, NV IS FLUID AND CAN CHANGE AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE. ALL UNIT NCO'S ARE TO CONTACT ME ASAP AND NOTIFY ME OF ANY NEEDS OR OBJECTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TRAINED FOR, FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS. TIME TO FISH OR CUT BAIT.

Also posted here...
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...itia/83709

And there is chatter about numerous neighboring organizations mobilizing as of yesterday as well as all over the country.

Probably just posturing but it may not be a bad thing. Time for some to put up or shut up I guess.
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#25
I wonder if the contract cowboys are illegals or just leased out from big corporation ranches?
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#26
spblademaker;140478 Wrote:I wonder if the contract cowboys are illegals or just leased out from big corporation ranches?

Whoever they are they have brand new trucks and trailers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHqQiSp0VmU
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#27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhJ6H9vlEDA
Quote:Breaking! Riots or some type of raid is occurring at the Bundy ranch right now! They are moving in dump trucks and back hoes in order to bury the cattle that are now being killed by the BLM! The protestors attempted to stop the convoy of trucks and all hell broke loose!
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...ents/83766
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#28
Let me help break the suspense the militia will cut bait and run.

Mr_Gixxer;140473 Wrote:FWIW...

A Nevada militia has been put on alert.
http://snmilitia.webs.com/apps/forums/to...?page=last
Quote:AS OF THIS DATE, I AM UPGRADING THE READINESS LEVEL OF THIS UNIT TO CONDITION RED. YOU ARE TO TRAVEL WITH 72 HR KITS IN YOUR VEHICLES AT ALL TIMES AND HAVE AT LEAST 6 DAYS OF WATER AND FOOD. CHECK YOUR FIRST AID KITS AND ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE NECESSARY MEDICATIONS STOCKED FOR LONG TERM NEEDS. ALSO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ADEQUATE SELF DEFENSE SUPPLIES. TRAINING WILL GO ON AS SCHEDULED THIS SATURDAY, BUT THE TRAINING MAY CHANGE. THE SITUATION IN BUNKERVILLE, NV IS FLUID AND CAN CHANGE AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE. ALL UNIT NCO'S ARE TO CONTACT ME ASAP AND NOTIFY ME OF ANY NEEDS OR OBJECTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TRAINED FOR, FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS. TIME TO FISH OR CUT BAIT.

Also posted here...
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...itia/83709

And there is chatter about numerous neighboring organizations mobilizing as of yesterday as well as all over the country.

Probably just posturing but it may not be a bad thing. Time for some to put up or shut up I guess.
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#29
ExcelToExcel;140497 Wrote:Let me help break the suspense the militia will cut bait and run.

Can you mix me up a metaphor when you're done with your own?
gascolator, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Nov 2012.
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#30
Mr_Gixxer;140479 Wrote:Whoever they are they have brand new trucks and trailers.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I would LOVE to get one of those brand new 1980's Dodge pickups.

Only one of those trucks looked even new-ish. Living in front of a working farm I can tell you that many of these farmers buy new equipment like you wouldn't believe. Especially the young guys.

And those brushed steel cattle trailers can look brand new for decades if well cared for.

Even still, I wouldn't be surprised if the flatbed & trailer was new. They're getting paid a good amount of money to get those cattle out of there, any farmer with such a contract will buy the equipment they need to get the job done. Or at least rent it.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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