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new Executive Order effectively banning nitrogen in fertilizer
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Quote:Obama issued an Executive order on August 1, 2013 that will effectively ban Ammonium Nitrate in the USA. It will become too expensive and create too much possible civil and criminal liability to manufacture, store, or transport it. Clinton did the same thing to Anhydrous Ammonia dealers in 1999. It put most Anhydrous dealers out of business. Obama is imposing the same regs and adding explosives regulations on top of OSHA and EPA regulations. It’s all there if you know how to read bureacratese.

Tannerite will probably be banned outright as soon as DHS & BATFE finish making policy based on this E.O. Whether or not they can criminalize it I don’t know. You can count on it being taken off the market though. The government has had it’s sights on Tannerite for a long time now.

Food and Fuel prices will skyrocket because Ammonium Nitrate forms the basis for almost all nitrogen in granular fertilizers used in American farming. There are no cost and ease of manufacture/use equivalents for ammonium nitrate. Supply and demand economics are going to be the harsh lesson of the day. Crop yields will go down. Corn is the basis for the American food supply and the fuel additive ethanol. A.N. is critical in corn production.

Hope everyone is ready for $12/gallon gasoline and $20 a box corn flakes.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-offi...d-security

http://www.csiafoundation.com/11478-ban-fertilizer
It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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Looked through it saw nothing that banned shit. They are simply trying to make a texas style explosion less probable by ordering better safety systems. No I don't think its needed or a good idea but we'll he able to by fertilizer just fine..
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Looked through it saw nothing that banned shit. They are simply trying to make a texas style explosion less probable by ordering better safety systems. No I don't think its needed or a good idea but we'll he able to by fertilizer just fine..
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This clearly states that federal, state, and local agencies are to coordinate safety practices for the storing of explosive materials and to establish plans for emergencies. Where do you see in the original any mention of prohibiting or limiting nitrogen?

The intent is to prevent another explosion like the one a few weeks ago. Anyone who thinks this is a problem is seriously.... never mind. Stop reading conspiracy theories. You'll feel better.
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It would be difficult to ban nitrogen as it makes up 78% of the air you breathe Smile
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Warpt762x39;115444 Wrote:It would be difficult to ban nitrogen as it makes up 78% of the air you breathe Smile

Why ban air when you can tax it?
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mingomom;115441 Wrote:This clearly states that federal, state, and local agencies are to coordinate safety practices for the storing of explosive materials and to establish plans for emergencies. Where do you see in the original any mention of prohibiting or limiting nitrogen?

The intent is to prevent another explosion like the one a few weeks ago. Anyone who thinks this is a problem is seriously.... never mind. Stop reading conspiracy theories. You'll feel better.

I'm not jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon here, but I do have to question if they've finished the root cause analysis of the explosion to determine if there is actually a need for this order.

Normally those kinds of reports take months to complete to actually find the cause of the incident. Sometimes bad things happen, no matter what kind of safety procedures and emergency plans are in place.

Just from what I know about the incident in TX is it probably wasn't a good idea for houses to be as close as they were to the plant itself. So that's probably the fault of the county for either allowing the construction of the plant or construction of the houses, which ever came last.
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Don't executive orders have an expiration date? Something like a year.
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streaker69;115460 Wrote:
mingomom;115441 Wrote:This clearly states that federal, state, and local agencies are to coordinate safety practices for the storing of explosive materials and to establish plans for emergencies. Where do you see in the original any mention of prohibiting or limiting nitrogen?

The intent is to prevent another explosion like the one a few weeks ago. Anyone who thinks this is a problem is seriously.... never mind. Stop reading conspiracy theories. You'll feel better.

I'm not jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon here, but I do have to question if they've finished the root cause analysis of the explosion to determine if there is actually a need for this order.

Normally those kinds of reports take months to complete to actually find the cause of the incident. Sometimes bad things happen, no matter what kind of safety procedures and emergency plans are in place.

Just from what I know about the incident in TX is it probably wasn't a good idea for houses to be as close as they were to the plant itself. So that's probably the fault of the county for either allowing the construction of the plant or construction of the houses, which ever came last.

I didn't follow that story closely but I think the biggest issue was the amount of finished product being stored was way more than was legal/safe.
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