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New Ruger LC380 vs LC9 vs Sig 250SC
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Looking for a new small sized pistol and have narrowed it down to the guns listed in the title. I'm fairly certain if I go with a 9mm it will simply be a question between whether the LC9 or Sig feels better in the hand, but I'm unsure about the new Ruger LC380. I know very little about the round, and even less about how it will work in this new gun. Any thoughts?
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#2
Personally I would go with the largest caliber for the size you want to carry.... I carry a .380 but its because its the LCP and its tiny and easy to conceal. I have an LC9 too, but generally don't carry it on myself because its not as easy to conceal, but hubby may start carrying it because his Smith is a bit too large for carrying.

I have no experience with the Sig, but I like the LC9. It has an easy to use thumb safety. It has a long trigger pull which to me is good for a carry piece. Its accurate, IMO....I can shoot my LC9 WAYYYY better than I can shoot the SR22 for some reason. I can't figure out why, but I'm always right lower quadrant with the .22 and usually fairly dead on with the LC9. It has somewhat rounded corners so in that way its also good for carry.

I bet the new LC380 is fun to shoot, but it would seem to me that for the size, the 9mm would be better defense...unless maybe the 380 has lesser recoil which would be attractive to some.
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I had a sig250 for a few months and had nothing but problems with it. Failure to feed and failure to eject well after the break in period. After doing some research (which I should have done first) I found that I wasn't the only one with these problems, and that as many as 1 in 3 were similar. Sig may have addressed this issue but I can't really say. The 250 also has quite a long, D/A only, trigger pull... too long for my comfort. In my opinion (for whatever it's worth) look into another model if you want a Sig.
Like RugerGirl said, I'd go with the LC9. The LC380 is the same frame as the LC9 in a less powerful (and more expensive) caliber. It's also brand new, so I doubt you'd find any for quite a while.
I'm not saying .380 won't do the job, I happen to love the round. It also has the name "9mm short" and makes an excellent concealment caliber. Modern manufacturing has brought it quite a way since it was first introduced and you can find a few companies that make some awesome loads for it. You can get smaller pistols that chamber it though, the Ruger LCP and the tiny Sig P238 are just a couple examples.
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#4
Searching and paying for .380 ammo compared to 9mm isn't fun.
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#5
Personally, I'd get the LC9 and order a LC9 Trigger System Upgrade, LC9 Stainless Steel Guiderod, and LC9 Recoil Springs from Galloway Precision. This will make the looooooong trigger pull a little more bearable and you can easily shoot 9mm +p or +p+ rounds without doing as much damage to your firearm. Hell, you can even save money by buying a used LC9 and then doing these upgrades.
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Philadelphia Patriot;70367 Wrote:Personally, I'd get the LC9 and order a LC9 Trigger System Upgrade, LC9 Stainless Steel Guiderod, and LC9 Recoil Springs from Galloway Precision. This will make the looooooong trigger pull a little more bearable and you can easily shoot 9mm +p or +p+ rounds without doing as much damage to your firearm. Hell, you can even save money by buying a used LC9 and then doing these upgrades.

Does their LC9 trigger require the frame to be bored out like their PF9 trigger? If so, be advised that you may be voiding the factory service agreement.
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TheWolff;70369 Wrote:
Philadelphia Patriot;70367 Wrote:Personally, I'd get the LC9 and order a LC9 Trigger System Upgrade, LC9 Stainless Steel Guiderod, and LC9 Recoil Springs from Galloway Precision. This will make the looooooong trigger pull a little more bearable and you can easily shoot 9mm +p or +p+ rounds without doing as much damage to your firearm. Hell, you can even save money by buying a used LC9 and then doing these upgrades.

Does their LC9 trigger require the frame to be bored out like their PF9 trigger? If so, be advised that you may be voiding the factory service agreement.


I'm not sure about that. Trigger jobs and sight removals/installations are two things I don't like to touch myself and I usually pay a gunsmith to do them. All I know is the trigger job shortens the trigger pull to half the normal distance the factory is set at, and I believe the trigger reset on their trigger pull is half the distance of the new trigger length.

TheWolff;70369 Wrote:Does their LC9 trigger require the frame to be bored out like their PF9 trigger? If so, be advised that you may be voiding the factory service agreement.


Found this:
Quote:-Does this void my factory warranty?
Since Ruger does not offer a written warranty we can’t say yes or no.
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Philadelphia Patriot;70374 Wrote:
TheWolff;70369 Wrote:Does their LC9 trigger require the frame to be bored out like their PF9 trigger? If so, be advised that you may be voiding the factory service agreement.


Found this:
Quote:-Does this void my factory warranty?
Since Ruger does not offer a written warranty we can’t say yes or no.

+1 Thanks for finding that. I'm curious about whether after these mods the gun can be returned to stock condition. With the PF9, it cannot. If they're just shortening the trigger bar and polishing internals, you could always get another stock one to put in if you had to send it in for unrelated repairs.
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I have the LCP and the LC9.

The LCP is super-concealable. The .380 round is definitely not a 9mm. That is the trade-off.

With the LC9 I personally have no issue with the trigger pull. Being so light, it is hard on my hands with 9mm Rem Golden Sabers. It isn't a range gun. I carry it in a Crossbreed Supertuck IWB. I hardly even know it is there while carrying. Carrying a single stack and light weight 9mm is nice.
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#10
consider the walther pps in 9mm. it has 6, 7, and 8 round magazines that give you a larger grip when you want it and a smaller when you need it.
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