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New York City Council approves ban on e-cigarette 'vaping' in public
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Quote:New York City Council approves ban on e-cigarette 'vaping' in public

E-cigarettes might be taking off here in Philly, but it may just be the beginning of the end for vaping in New York. By a vote of 43 to 8, the New York City Council voted yesterday to ban the use of e-cigarettes in public spaces in Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s latest effort to get nicotine out of his city.

Once Bloomberg signs the bill, e-cigarette use will be prohibited at both private and public spaces like restaurants, offices, parks, and beaches after 120 days. At that point, e-cigarettes as a nicotine delivery device would be added to the city’s Smoke-Free Air Act, despite not actually outputting any smoke.

But, interestingly, bill sponsor and City Council Speaker Christine Quinn says that the bill will go a long way in helping enforce anti-smoking laws that keep cigarettes out of those areas. E-cigs, she says, simply look just too much like the real thing to keep enforcement rolling smoothly. As she tells CBS New York:

“Because many of the E-cigarettes are designed to look like cigarettes and be used just like them, they can lead to confusion or confrontation.”

So, in that sense, the crux of the e-cig ban doesn’t seem to be on public health per se, but rather on ignorance of what e-cigarettes are and how they operate by the enforcement arm of the law. Her statement is, in essence, the embodiment of the “if it quacks like a duck…” argument we’ve seen escalate the e-cig issue into the mess we’re in now.

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Ban e-cigs and you might as well start smoking again. Shrug
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I'm guessing the only reason alcohol is still allowed in NYC is because the government still likes their Friday nights....

There is no logic whatsoever in all the stuff they are banning. I don't smoke, and never have, and never will, but geez.....
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I love e-cigs, mostly because they don't gag this non-smoker.

And I'm a former pub-musician who has had his fill of second-hand smoke.

I hope that places like John & Peter's in New Hope will pull their heads out of their asses and ban conventional cigarettes and sell e-cigs, so I can go there once again.
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I thought the e-cigs was a direct result of trying to reduce secondhand smoke to take away risk from the public?
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RugerGirl;129313 Wrote:I thought the e-cigs was a direct result of trying to reduce secondhand smoke to take away risk from the public?

I think it was just a result of looking for a healthier alternative altogether. It's way better for the user because it doesn't have tar. I've been vaping for about a year now and it's awesome.
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Most of the early e-cigs I've seen had a blue LED on the tip. The vaporizers look like the old zeppelin pipes we used back in the day. If the enforcers are having a hard time telling the difference, maybe they should educate themselves. Shrug

I've never thought incendiary devices were a good delivery device for nicotine. The industry could still make a killing selling nicotine gum and the addicts would still get their fix with zero impact on the folks sitting next to them.
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Honestly, I hope this becomes the trend everywhere. Until you can tell me what's in every single brand and style of these ecigs I don't want to breathe your fucking "vape".
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Mr_Gixxer;129357 Wrote:Honestly, I hope this becomes the trend everywhere. Until you can tell me what's in every single brand and style of these ecigs I don't want to breathe your fucking "vape".

If we're lucky enough, they're vaporizing ETOH. Tongue
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bac0nfat;129314 Wrote:
RugerGirl;129313 Wrote:I thought the e-cigs was a direct result of trying to reduce secondhand smoke to take away risk from the public?

I think it was just a result of looking for a healthier alternative altogether. It's way better for the user because it doesn't have tar. I've been vaping for about a year now and it's awesome.

http://www.theindychannel.com/lifestyle/...real-thing

Quote:Doctors caution use of e-cigarettes, saying vaping is worse than smoking the real thing.

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Dr. Mike Feinstein, a spokesman for the American Lung Association said, “People are inhaling some type of chemical vaporized compound into their lungs without really knowing what's in it."

Last year, the American Lung Association issued its own warning about e-cigarettes: “This is a buyer stay-away, a buyer health hazard, potentially."

Dr. Robert Greene treats lung cancer patients at the Palm Beach Cancer Institute and said the product is potentially a health hazard.

“There really is no information about whether they're safe or not, and that's part of the problem," said Greene.

He says with no real data on e-cigarettes, the three-year-old tobacco alternative may actually be more harmful that traditional cigarettes.

"The doses of nicotine that you get could conceivably be higher than what you would get in a typical cigarette," said Greene.

Ray Story is an e-cigarette distributor and CEO of the Tobacco Vapor Electronic Cigarette Association.

"To make that claim is obviously ludicrous," he said. “At the end of the day when you look at an e-cigarette, is it addictive? Nicotine is addictive."

Authorities don't necessarily know what's inside of e-cigarettes, but the FDA tested a small sample just a few years ago and found a number of toxic chemicals including diethylene glycol, the same ingredient used in antifreeze.

“I understand they found all kinds of stuff," said Story. "At one point in time you may have found whatever you want to find. If it cannot be substantiated by the other side, you have to question their motive."

The findings forced the Food and Drug Administration to issue a nationwide health warning.

Meanwhile, Chesher says she's decided to wash her hands of anything to do with electronic cigarettes.

“I have no problem throwing them in the trash," she said.

According to the Tobacco Vapor Electronic Cigarette Association, e-cigarettes contain just five ingredients, all approved by the FDA. Recently, the FDA announced it will begin to regulate e-cigarettes as a tobacco product.
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