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'No Red Tape'? New Jersey Turns Away Non-union Relief Crews
#21
I wonder if those 3 big ass trucks I saw with gigantic spools and huge drill bits turned around and headed back north.

Hmmm, I wonder...
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#22
steelcityk9cop;34447 Wrote:This is getting interesting. Apparently the crews in question never even made it to NJ. They were in Virginia when confronted by the IBEW.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1942089923001

Decatur said that while in Virginia, they were presented with IBEW papers to sign. When the crews refused, they were told they couldn't help the millions in need.

Who are the mindless ones again, Leplat?

NJ union scumbags, plain and simple.
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(11-02-2012, 10:03 PM)thebearpack Wrote:
steelcityk9cop;34447 Wrote:This is getting interesting. Apparently the crews in question never even made it to NJ. They were in Virginia when confronted by the IBEW.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1942089923001

Decatur said that while in Virginia, they were presented with IBEW papers to sign. When the crews refused, they were told they couldn't help the millions in need.

Who are the mindless ones again, Leplat?

NJ union scumbags, plain and simple.

No...that wasn't what was said. The crews were never presented with IBEW paperwork. The paperwork came to the home office. The home office refused not the crews and pulled their people back.

Did the paperwork come from IBEW in Alabama...did it come from NJ....did it come from their home office? The company rep didn't get into detail about that....nor did he get into detail about what was in the paperwork. He was a tad bit evasive in his answers.

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steelcityk9cop;34476 Wrote:No...that wasn't what was said. The crews were never presented with IBEW paperwork. The paperwork came to the home office. The home office refused not the crews and pulled their people back.

Did the paperwork come from IBEW in Alabama...did it come from NJ....did it come from their home office? The company rep didn't get into detail about that....nor did he get into detail about what was in the paperwork. He was a tad bit evasive in his answers.

That's certainly not the way I heard it and it's interesting that you're accusing the company rep of being evasive when there is an audio of union employees acting like scumbags. Of course evil management has to be in the wrong, not the poor workers. Go union!

Unions have long since outlived their usefulness and are now nothing but corrupt organizations that protect the lazy and unskilled in return for extortion in the form of dues. That's a fact. Truly motivated and skilled folks wouldn't be satisfied with collecting the same paycheck as the lazy moron next to him who just happens to have the same number of years in. Truly motivated and skilled people would say "screw this" and go off and start their own business, take their own risks, be entrepreneurs like those who made America great.

I guess they do serve a purpose though, because America still needs semi-skilled worker drones and the union keeps them buzzing along while picking their pockets and pretending to care about them.
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#25
Nothing in that audio to confirm that was related to the storm, to me it sounds like non union workers crossing a picket line.





kadar;34431 Wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1a3ULfKd7k
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#26
It will be interesting to hear the stories from the utility workers themselves, once they return home.
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http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/02/ala-ut...ief-video/
“It was like, ‘What’s the hold up?’ he said. “It turns out there was a 300-page contract that the union controlling LIPA [the Long Island Power Authority] wanted everybody to sign first. We don’t have time for that. We’ve got guys ready to go. You need lawyers for this.”
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#27
From the dailycaller link:
Quote:But Decatur Utilities in Decatur, Ala. told Huntsville’s WAFF-TV Thursday evening that its crews were denied the opportunity to work in Seaside Heights, N.J. because they’re not affiliated with a union. Some of those workers, the company said, headed home. Others remained at a staging area in Roanoke, Va.

And on Friday the company doubled down, with general manager Ray Hardin telling Fox Business Network’s Stuart Varney that “we were presented with documents from IBEW that required our folks to affiliate with the union. And [that's] something that we could not agree to. And it was our understanding, and still is, that that was a requirement of working in that area.”

A Central Florida utility lineman who insisted on remaining anonymous told TheDC in a phone interview Friday that his 12-person crew waited ”all day yesterday” for their bosses to sort through the IBEW’s demands.

“It was like, ‘What’s the hold up?’ he said. “It turns out there was a 300-page contract that the union controlling LIPA [the Long Island Power Authority] wanted everybody to sign first. We don’t have time for that. We’ve got guys ready to go. You need lawyers for this.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/02/ala-ut...z2BA9U0moz

Of course the union is going to deny all this. It's gonna be "he said, they said" from this point forward, but I'm sure somebody will have those documents to share when it comes time to do so.

There are a ton of profiteering opportunities just waiting to be had in this disaster. We ain't seen nothing yet.
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(11-03-2012, 07:13 AM)thebearpack Wrote:
steelcityk9cop;34476 Wrote:No...that wasn't what was said. The crews were never presented with IBEW paperwork. The paperwork came to the home office. The home office refused not the crews and pulled their people back.

Did the paperwork come from IBEW in Alabama...did it come from NJ....did it come from their home office? The company rep didn't get into detail about that....nor did he get into detail about what was in the paperwork. He was a tad bit evasive in his answers.

That's certainly not the way I heard it and it's interesting that you're accusing the company rep of being evasive when there is an audio of union employees acting like scumbags. Of course evil management has to be in the wrong, not the poor workers. Go union!

Unions have long since outlived their usefulness and are now nothing but corrupt organizations that protect the lazy and unskilled in return for extortion in the form of dues. That's a fact. Truly motivated and skilled folks wouldn't be satisfied with collecting the same paycheck as the lazy moron next to him who just happens to have the same number of years in. Truly motivated and skilled people would say "screw this" and go off and start their own business, take their own risks, be entrepreneurs like those who made America great.

I guess they do serve a purpose though, because America still needs semi-skilled worker drones and the union keeps them buzzing along while picking their pockets and pretending to care about them.

I accuse him of being evasive because he said, "it was our understanding and still is". Did they call someone at Long Island Power who said you can't come? who? Name names. Did they verify anything?

The audio.... where was it taken? How did the IBEW know the exact spot in Virginia these guys were going to stay? They mobilized to give them shit in Virginia at a staging area in a parking lot? It sounds fishy to me.



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#29
After reading more, it "appears" that this story involves several different crews and locations.
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http://news.yahoo.com/jersey-town-ala-vo...00307.html
Derrick Moore, who works for Decatur Utilities in Decatur, Ala., told WAFF-TV in Huntsville that crews in Seaside Heights, N.J. turned him and his crewmates away, saying they couldn’t do any work there because they’re not union employees.

As a result, crews from Decatur and Huntsville left the Jersey shore and headed to Long Island to pitch in.

WAFF’s Mark Thornton reported that Moore and his coworkers “are frustrated being told, in essence, ‘thanks, but no thanks.’”

Another nonunion Decatur Utilities crew is idling in Roanoke, Va., waiting for instructions from Seaside Heights. The town asked them days ago for help, but later told the workers to stand down.

A rejected crew from the Joe Wheeler Electric Membership Co-op in Trinity, Ala. has already turned around and headed back to Dixie.
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