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NRA Chief Says Group Accepts Background Checks
#21
Warpt762x39;68859 Wrote:We don't use NICS in PA.

Sure we do. PICS operators access the NICS info before approving transactions, otherwise, anyone with an out-of-PA prohibiting conviction would be able to pass the PICS check.
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#22
I have no problem with a NICS/PICS check unless everytime my father tries to give me a gift we have to head to the gun store and have a background check done, and I am sure there will be a fee associated with that. I am also sure that the gun store owner will then proceed to tell us that the gun has to be "registered in my name" and the fee for that is $10, $20, $50 or any other amount they so choose to do the transfer.

NICS/PICS checks for gifting firearms within a family is nonsense. You should know if your family member is prohibited or not, and if there is the slightest doubt, do not give them this gift.

If that is where we are going with this whole NICS/PICS thing, I will not be gifting firearms to family members, but those with a valid LTCF can certainly borrow them.
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#23
fuck them. no changes, no more fees, nothing. the line has been drawn. Im tired of giving these assholes what they want no matter how small the piece is.
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Warpt762x39;68859 Wrote:
Valorius;68852 Wrote:NICs DOES prevent illegal gun sales every day. This is not theoretical. It's a fact.

We don't use NICS in PA.

Making it mandatory only inconveniences criminals. They use straw purchasers, back alley sale or steal guns.

Yes we do.

And my brother has watched many would be gun buyers led out of his stores in cuffs over the years for trying to buy while prohibited.

bucksco;68877 Wrote:fuck them. no changes, no more fees, nothing. the line has been drawn. Im tired of giving these assholes what they want no matter how small the piece is.

Uh, we've been winning the gun control battle and winning it big for almost 20 years. Giving them whatever they want?

They wanted shall issue, castle doctrine, stand your ground, an expired AWB, etc, etc, etc?

We have not given them SHIT since 1994.
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#25
So why start now? Why not fight this thing tooth and nail all the way....

I think there is enough opposition in Congress for an AWB to at least hold this up a long, long time.... long enough for emotions to wear off and for people to understand what is at stake.

Everything else... why give in? Why hope that by giving them more background checks NOW, they will leave the ARs alone? It is buying time, but that is all. Frankly, the way politics are going, I really don't think time is a luxury we have. By numbers, we are very close to loosing the house next election and the democrats control the senate. We aren't in a great position to fight this indefinitely, so why make it any easier for them?

And, some food for thought (and I don't necessarily agree with this, just something to consider), where does the 2A allow for background checks? I mean, weren't at least a few of the colonists criminals or outcasts at some point in their lives? Stirpot
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Publican;68483 Wrote:http://nation.time.com/2013/01/17/nra-ch...nd-checks/

Quote:(WASHINGTON) — The head of the National Rifle Association says the organization has no problem with tighter background checks of gun purchasers.

I sure as hell hope this does not mean they are OK w/ the part that any transfer/sale must be precede by a background check.

That would mean NO GIFTING, and NO INHERITING w/o background checks.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/01/23/nra-blast...nd-checks/

Quote:NRA blasts universal background checks

Thought I had heard this somewhere. THANK GOODNESS the NRA is aligned w/ my thoughts on this universal crapBig Grin


Quote:NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre disappeared from the public eye for a month following an aggressive call-t0-arms in response to the tragic shooting in Newtown, CT. He resurfaced last night, and clearly, little has changed. Not only did LaPierre push back on restrictions to high-capacity magazines and assault rifles, but he forcibly rejected universal background checks. For the record, polls find roughly 9 in 10 Americans support universal background checks to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill.

Among the reasons given for opposing background checks, LaPierre says they involve “standing in line and filling out a bunch of bureaucratic paperwork, just so a grandfather can give a grandson a Christmas gift.” Beyond that inconvenience, LaPierre suggested, the government has ulterior motives. He claimed background checks are essentially a cover in order to compile a “massive federal registry” of guns, which which would only be used “to either tax ‘em or take ‘em.”
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