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NRA says more gun control not a serious proposal
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NRA says more gun control not a serious proposal
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By ALAN FRAM, AP
2 hours ago
WASHINGTON — Banning some assault weapons and requiring background checks for all firearms purchases aren't a serious attempt to reduce gun violence, a top National Rifle Association official warned Tuesday as Congress geared up for the year's first hearing on the subject.

Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, said the country must instead focus on boosting security at schools, enforcing existing gun laws and taking more steps to deny guns to people with mental illnesses.

"Law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violent or deranged criminals. Nor do we believe the government should dictate what we can lawfully own and use to protect our families," LaPierre said in testimony that he planned to deliver Wednesday at a hearing by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

LaPierre's statement, released Tuesday by the NRA, came nearly seven weeks after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., in which a gunman killed 20 children and six adults. The horrific slayings have revived the national debate over gun control, with President Barack Obama proposing a range of restrictions last week and members of Congress introducing legislation on the subject.

LaPierre's testimony was similar in substance but somewhat milder in tone than remarks he made less than two weeks after the mass shooting. Then, he attacked the "media machine" for blaming the gun industry for attacks like Newtown and said what was needed to prevent the next massacre were armed guards and police in every school.
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Good! Now to get my 11yo signed up...
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During this last election I realized that voting is a joke. Money talks and shit walks. I'll be doing my voting financially from now on through my favorite lobbying group... The NRA.
..."The US are famous for their mass shootings because of guns...

And most of the "gun free" world is famous for the mass government sanctioned executions because of the lack of guns"...
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Quote:WASHINGTON — Banning some assault weapons and requiring background checks for all firearms purchases aren't a serious attempt to reduce gun violence, a top National Rifle Association official warned Tuesday as Congress geared up for the year's first hearing on the subject.

Well he's right! The federal government has a 45 year history of lax (to be kind) enforcement of the provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968.

If they don't enforce the laws why do they need them? BTW you don't have to believe me, just do a search using the term" U.S. Attorneys Too Bust to enforce gun control laws" and see what comes up.
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Brick;73394 Wrote:
Quote:WASHINGTON — Banning some assault weapons and requiring background checks for all firearms purchases aren't a serious attempt to reduce gun violence, a top National Rifle Association official warned Tuesday as Congress geared up for the year's first hearing on the subject.

Well he's right! The federal government has a 45 year history of lax (to be kind) enforcement of the provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968.

If they don't enforce the laws why do they need them? BTW you don't have to believe me, just do a search using the term" U.S. Attorneys Too Bust to enforce gun control laws" and see what comes up.

Because if these laws are enforced, Obama can disarm the American people and effectively become a de facto and unopposed dictator...
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Everyone needs to get over the ridiculous idea that they want to pass this shit to stop criminals. They don't give a fuck about crime rates. They just want you unarmed and bowing down to them.
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rmagill;73512 Wrote:
Brick;73394 Wrote:Well he's right! The federal government has a 45 year history of lax (to be kind) enforcement of the provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968.

If they don't enforce the laws why do they need them? BTW you don't have to believe me, just do a search using the term" U.S. Attorneys Too Bust to enforce gun control laws" and see what comes up.

Because if these laws are enforced, Obama can disarm the American people and effectively become a de facto and unopposed dictator...

I think you missed something somewhere along the line. I was pointing out the 45 year history of almost ignoring the penalties imposed by the Gun Control Act of 1968. The same thing goes for the perjury penalties for lying on a Form 4473. Now you might think 5 years in Federal prison is a big deal, but apparently our Vice President doesn't think it very important as he told the NRA's MR. Baker during the "commission" meeting something like " The U.S. Attorneys have better things to do". And I think today in the hearing before Leahey, LaPierre chided the BATFE and other FEDS by pointing out their brag about NICS denying the sale of guns to some 72,000 odd "criminals" but only 44 of those were arrest and tried!
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Brick;73819 Wrote:
rmagill;73512 Wrote:Because if these laws are enforced, Obama can disarm the American people and effectively become a de facto and unopposed dictator...

I think you missed something somewhere along the line. I was pointing out the 45 year history of almost ignoring the penalties imposed by the Gun Control Act of 1968. The same thing goes for the perjury penalties for lying on a Form 4473. Now you might think 5 years in Federal prison is a big deal, but apparently our Vice President doesn't think it very important as he told the NRA's MR. Baker during the "commission" meeting something like " The U.S. Attorneys have better things to do". And I think today in the hearing before Leahey, LaPierre chided the BATFE and other FEDS by pointing out their brag about NICS denying the sale of guns to some 72,000 odd "criminals" but only 44 of those were arrest and tried!

Right.

However, I remember reading recently about the feds rounding up people on the boarder state for laws more petty than the firearm laws. The same laws they weren't enforcing for decades. Those people probably had no idea they were even breaking federal laws.

Even though the .gov isn't doing anything about this now, doesn't mean they wont come down hard later. Also, once there is a paper trail... well how do we know it wont be used to confiscate firearms down the road? We don't.
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You sez:
Quote:Even though the .gov isn't doing anything about this now, doesn't mean they wont come down hard later. Also, once there is a paper trail... well how do we know it wont be used to confiscate firearms down the road? We don't.

I'm not sure where this is coming from. We've been filling out Form 4473 for many years to complete a legal sale. Do you have evidence that the BATFE is illegally copying those documents while conducting inspections of dealer's records? We know that when a dealer goes out of business his records are turned over to BATFE under current law. And we also know the FBI is required to destroy records of NICS clearances within a period of time (72 hrs iirc) of completion of a background check so what's your point? 'Course we know the BATFE and the FBI would never do anything illegal right?
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Brick;74127 Wrote:You sez:
Quote:Even though the .gov isn't doing anything about this now, doesn't mean they wont come down hard later. Also, once there is a paper trail... well how do we know it wont be used to confiscate firearms down the road? We don't.

I'm not sure where this is coming from. We've been filling out Form 4473 for many years to complete a legal sale. Do you have evidence that the BATFE is illegally copying those documents while conducting inspections of dealer's records? We know that when a dealer goes out of business his records are turned over to BATFE under current law. And we also know the FBI is required to destroy records of NICS clearances within a period of time (72 hrs iirc) of completion of a background check so what's your point? 'Course we know the BATFE and the FBI would never do anything illegal right?

And the PSP destroys the record of sales and doesn't enter them in any sort of database. Rolleyes

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/12...-registry/

http://www.gunowners.com/batf.htm

And the ATF wants records on any transfer involving TWO (2) or more firearms (pistol or rifle):
http://www.atf.gov/publications/download...300-15.pdf
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