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Quote:NRA takes aim at California's sweeping gun control bill

The National Rifle Association says it plans to sue the state of California if Gov. Jerry Brown signs a bill approved by state lawmakers that would ban the future sale of most types of semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines.

Among the bills sent to Brown last month is one that would outlaw an entire class of weapons that includes most assault rifles. It is the latest and most far-reaching attempt to close loopholes that have allowed manufacturers to circumvent previous assault weapon bans enacted in the state since the 1990s.

The NRA's Institute for Legislative Action wrote in a post on its website that the bill is unconstitutional and "would make unprecedented changes to California’s already unjust and byzantine 'assault weapon' law."

Under current California law, assault weapons can only be used for limited purposes and owners are prohibited from transferring them to anyone in the state. The bill would change the definition of an assault weapon to include any semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine or a fixed magazines holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition, according to the group's statement.

"Our right to keep and bear arms has never been as seriously threatened in California as it is today. After years of incrementally adopting gun control measures, this year the Legislature decided to propose new laws adopting everything on the gun ban lobby’s wish list," the group said Tuesday.

Other bills seek to restrict ammunition sales and who can legally possess firearms. California lawmakers went further than other states, notably New York, in passing bills responding to last year's mass shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, and Aurora, Colorado.

Brown and his staff will not comment on the legislation, but the governor has a track record of rejecting some firearms bills while signing others. He has until Oct. 13 to either sign or veto the bills.

Sam Paredes, executive director of Gun Owners of California, told The Associated Press last month that the assault weapon ban alone would put California in the forefront on restrictions.

"No question about it. The bill will make half of the rifles in existence 'assault weapons,' and make them illegal," he said.

The definition in the assault weapons bill applies to most semi-automatic hunting rifles, along with the military-style rifles that have been used in mass slayings. It exempts .22-caliber rim fire rifles.

Those who currently possess the types of guns covered by the bill would have to register the weapons and could not transfer them to others.

"That's like banning handguns. It's an entire class of guns that are being banned," Paredes said, predicting a legal challenge if SB374 by Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg is signed into law.

Steinberg, D-Sacramento, defended his legislation and other bills that were sent to Brown as part of a Senate package. They include extending the state Handgun Safety Certificate program to include rifles and shotguns, updating the definition of a prohibited assault weapon to include certain shotguns and expanding the list of those not allowed to own firearms to include people with multiple drug and alcohol offenses.

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They are just NOW deciding to sue California? So until now, everything was just fine and dandy, but THIS legislation is where the infringement begins?
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(10-03-2013, 09:46 AM)bac0nfat Wrote: They are just NOW deciding to sue California? So until now, everything was just fine and dandy, but THIS legislation is where the infringement begins?

With the cost of lawsuits I would assume the NRA has to pick and choose their battles. The lefties in California have unlimited resources (tax money).

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Sue sue and sue some more. Run the gambit. YEAH! Nothing will change. They find a law illegal they rewrite it changing two words and then you have to sue again. Until we get serious about forcing the government to do the right thing I'm fairly convinced we're wasting our time.
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(10-03-2013, 03:43 PM)ExcelToExcel Wrote: Sue sue and sue some more. Run the gambit. YEAH! Nothing will change. They find a law illegal they rewrite it changing two words and then you have to sue again. Until we get serious about forcing the government to do the right thing I'm fairly convinced we're wasting our time.

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grumpyrocco;120511 Wrote:
(10-03-2013, 09:46 AM)bac0nfat Wrote: They are just NOW deciding to sue California? So until now, everything was just fine and dandy, but THIS legislation is where the infringement begins?

With the cost of lawsuits I would assume the NRA has to pick and choose their battles. The lefties in California have unlimited resources (tax money).

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They probably wouldn't, if they didn't waste so much harassing their membership trying to shake down even more money.....
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God forbid the NRA does something good. They could give $20 to an orphan, and people here would be criticizing them.
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Philadelphia Patriot;120493 Wrote:
Quote:NRA takes aim at California's sweeping gun control bill

The bill would change the definition of an assault weapon to include any semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine or a fixed magazines holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition, according to the group's statement.

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At first glance I thought this law didn't really change much in CA. However, I now see what they've done. Basically they've found a way to completely outlaw the use of magazines with more than a 10 round capacity in rifles.

It doesn't change those who have post-ban "bullet-button" AR-15's. Already it is a felony to have a "fixed" magazine that holds more than 10 rounds. Insert a pre-ban 30 rounder into your post-ban bullet button AR-15 and you are an instant felon in CA.

As it stands now, you can legally use standard pre-ban 30 round AR-15 mags for example under two conditions. If you have a pre-ban registered "assault-rifle", or as long as you've removed all of the "evil" features (or "characteristics" as they defined it in the CA assault weapons ban) from the following list:

(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
© A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.

These law makers are tricky. They've figured out how to fix some of the stuff they missed in the existing ban. I too wish the NRA would sue CA, NY and NJ already and win, getting some of the laws in these states overturned. However I understand that legal battles need to be strategic, and losing would mean further restrictions of 2nd Amendment rights of citizens in these states and also set legal precedent for the rest of the nation.
LostCyborg, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Jun 2013.

You wouldn't be able to run as many people over with that car if it didn't drive as far. It should only have a 10 gallon fuel tank.
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Maybe the less liberal parts of CA need to secede...
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bigdawgbeav;120657 Wrote:Maybe the less liberal parts of CA need to secede...

It has been proposed, everything Santa Barbara County and south minus Los Angeles county, they aren't invited. I doubt it will ever happen though.
LostCyborg, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Jun 2013.

You wouldn't be able to run as many people over with that car if it didn't drive as far. It should only have a 10 gallon fuel tank.
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