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NYTimes Reporter: 'They Are So Much Cockier Now At The White House'
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Hard to believe they could get much cockier.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/20...hite-House

"I think when you talk about the feeling at the White House, there's a palpable difference now compared to 2011, the summer of 2011," said Cooper. "They are so much cockier right now at the White House than they were a year and a half ago when they were doing this. They really believe they have set out--you come to us, we're not going to negotiate against ourselves. We're not going to like put -- keep putting out more proposals. I mean, remember the summer of 2011, when President Obama was perceived, and they believed at the White House, that he kept making concession after concession and didn't get anywhere? They are definitely not doing that now." 9 Dec 2012 36 post a comment
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#2
They have the upper hand in the fiscal cliff. The safety net cuts in the budget slashing are not going to hurt as much as the massive cuts that will hit the Pentagon.

And we have two weeks left before it hits.


It will flip around when it comes time to do the debt ceiling. With a president that doesn't fear an election there will be some fighting for sure, and maybe a push to change the Senate cloture rules.
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ArcticSplash;50905 Wrote:They have the upper hand in the fiscal cliff. The safety net cuts in the budget slashing are not going to hurt as much as the massive cuts that will hit the Pentagon.

And we have two weeks left before it hits.


It will flip around when it comes time to do the debt ceiling. With a president that doesn't fear an election there will be some fighting for sure, and maybe a push to change the Senate cloture rules.

This. In every possible scenario, the White House comes out on top. If we go over the cliff and taxes for EVERYONE goes up, Obama can lower taxes on who he wants while still keeping the taxes high for the top 2%.

Republicans have NO bargaining power here. The best they can do is make it clear they will be following the lead of Senator Obama, and vote 'present' on issues that are 'hard'.
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I'm thinking back to George W's "victory" speech on winning (barely) his second term where he announced "I have political capital now, and I intend to spend it!"

That wasn't cocky at all, oh no.
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gascolator;50936 Wrote:I'm thinking back to George W's "victory" speech on winning (barely) his second term where he announced "I have political capital now, and I intend to spend it!"

That wasn't cocky at all, oh no.

The major difference is that he didn't, within hours of winning reelection, sign on to a deal that could subvert the Constitution and give foreigners power over who may, or may not, have access to a constitutionally guaranteed right.

I suppose you'll say that isn't cocky.
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gascolator;50936 Wrote:I'm thinking back to George W's "victory" speech on winning (barely) his second term where he announced "I have political capital now, and I intend to spend it!"

That wasn't cocky at all, oh no.

George the straw man can't hurt you anymore.

Best to pay attention to the one who intends to.
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Pocketprotector;50970 Wrote:George the straw man can't hurt you anymore.

Best to pay attention to the one who intends to.

Agree. GW's name isn't on the mailbox at the White House any more. Time to focus on the present and near future, 'cause that's where the danger exists now.
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billamj;50947 Wrote:
gascolator;50936 Wrote:I'm thinking back to George W's "victory" speech on winning (barely) his second term where he announced "I have political capital now, and I intend to spend it!"

That wasn't cocky at all, oh no.

The major difference is that he didn't, within hours of winning reelection, sign on to a deal that could subvert the Constitution and give foreigners power over who may, or may not, have access to a constitutionally guaranteed right.

I suppose you'll say that isn't cocky.

Touting Dubya doesn't lend much credibility to an argument.
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If republicans have balls they will vote no over and over. Let the taxes come for everyone. Let the debt ceiling become a 10 foot thick steel roof.
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MrPeanut;51173 Wrote:
billamj;50947 Wrote:The major difference is that he didn't, within hours of winning reelection, sign on to a deal that could subvert the Constitution and give foreigners power over who may, or may not, have access to a constitutionally guaranteed right.

I suppose you'll say that isn't cocky.

Touting Dubya doesn't lend much credibility to an argument.

And blaming him for today's problems when he's been out of office for almost four years is absurd in the extreme.
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