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Obama administration proposes new executive actions on gun background checks
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The Obama administration on Friday proposed two new executive actions to make it easier for states to provide mental health information to the national background check system, wading back into the gun control debate after a months-long hiatus.

Vice President Biden's office announced the proposals Friday afternoon. Both pertain to the ability of states to provide information about the mentally ill and those seeking mental health treatment to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

One proposal would formally give permission to states to submit "the limited information necessary to help keep guns out of potentially dangerous hands," without having to worry about the privacy provisions in a law known as HIPAA.

"The proposed rule will not change the fact that seeking help for mental health problems or getting treatment does not make someone legally prohibited from having a firearm," the statement said. "Furthermore, nothing in the proposed rule would require reporting on general mental health visits or other routine mental health care, or would exempt providers solely performing these treatment services from existing privacy rules."

The other proposal would clarify that those who are involuntarily committed to a mental institution -- both inpatient and outpatient -- count under the law as "committed to a mental institution." According to the administration, this change will help clarify for states what information to provide to the background check system, as well as who is barred from having guns.

The statement from Biden's office claimed these changes would help ensure that "better and more reliable information" makes its way into the system.

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...and none of which would have stopped Newtown from happening.
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I'm just WAITING to see who is going to be denied because they talk to a therapist or have been to marriage counseling.

Just wait.
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ArcticSplash;130481 Wrote:I'm just WAITING to see who is going to be denied because they talk to a therapist or have been to marriage counseling.

Just wait.

I was thinking the same thing too. I'll laugh when cops go to therapy because they saw something horrible, and then the government tells them too that they can't own firearms. I wouldn't be surprised if our vets turn down help too because they don't want their firearms taken away from them.

Quote:"The proposed rule will not change the fact that seeking help for mental health problems or getting treatment does not make someone legally prohibited from having a firearm," the statement said. "Furthermore, nothing in the proposed rule would require reporting on general mental health visits or other routine mental health care, or would exempt providers solely performing these treatment services from existing privacy rules."

If I recall correctly the government also told us we can keep our health plans if we wanted to too.
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Philadelphia Patriot;130482 Wrote:
ArcticSplash;130481 Wrote:I'm just WAITING to see who is going to be denied because they talk to a therapist or have been to marriage counseling.

Just wait.

I was thinking the same thing too. I'll laugh when cops go to therapy because they saw something horrible, and then the government tells them too that they can't own firearms. I wouldn't be surprised if our vets turn down help too because they don't want their firearms taken away from them.

Quote:"The proposed rule will not change the fact that seeking help for mental health problems or getting treatment does not make someone legally prohibited from having a firearm," the statement said. "Furthermore, nothing in the proposed rule would require reporting on general mental health visits or other routine mental health care, or would exempt providers solely performing these treatment services from existing privacy rules."

If I recall correctly the government also told us we can keep our health plans if we wanted to too.

While not required, does it mean they couldn't do it anyway.
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Frankly, I don't see how this is any different than a 302... if one is a legitimate threat to their own life - or that of another's - they can be 302ed without violating confidentiality. This is a stated exception to confidentiality.

As such, this exec. order is completely unneeded, useless, and shouldn't be passed.
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