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Obama kills 300 innocents
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Four more years of this kind of murder?

"Obama authorized nearly 300 drone strikes in Pakistan during his first four years in office, more than six times the number during the administration of George W. Bush [emphsis added], according to the New America Foundation policy institute.

Since 2004, a total of 337 U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan have killed between 1,908 and 3,225 people.

The institute estimates about 15 percent of those killed were non-militants, although that percentage has declined sharply to about 1-2 percent this year. Washington says drone strikes are very accurate and cause minimal civilian deaths." Reuters.
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cgk;38687 Wrote:Four more years of this kind of murder?

"Obama authorized nearly 300 drone strikes in Pakistan during his first four years in office, more than six times the number during the administration of George W. Bush [emphsis added], according to the New America Foundation policy institute.

Since 2004, a total of 337 U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan have killed between 1,908 and 3,225 people.

The institute estimates about 15 percent of those killed were non-militants, although that percentage has declined sharply to about 1-2 percent this year. Washington says drone strikes are very accurate and cause minimal civilian deaths." Reuters.

This is sort of like saying that Woodrow Wilson was responsible for war crimes for the unprecedented carnage caused by Browning machine guns during the first world war, and pointing to Abe Lincoln as a counter-point.

If it had been a Republican or Tea-Party President, likely we'd be reading "Commander-in-Chief uses technology to save US pilots from shoot-down, torture, and beheading at the hands of hostile insurgency who refuse to observe terms of Geneva Convention."

If you think that the pilot of an Apache, Warthog, or Harrier is going to loiter around at low speed to figure out if there are civilians around when under orders to attack a target and hope that nobody happens to have a shoulder-launched SAM, then think again.

War is hell, but then some people bring hell-fire down upon themselves.'

It's about time that we stopped "fighting fair" against people who don't.
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cgk;38687 Wrote:Four more years of this kind of murder?

"Obama authorized nearly 300 drone strikes in Pakistan during his first four years in office, more than six times the number during the administration of George W. Bush [emphsis added], according to the New America Foundation policy institute.

Since 2004, a total of 337 U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan have killed between 1,908 and 3,225 people.

The institute estimates about 15 percent of those killed were non-militants, although that percentage has declined sharply to about 1-2 percent this year. Washington says drone strikes are very accurate and cause minimal civilian deaths." Reuters.

2 of those killed were American citizens, assassinated without trial or charges by the President of the United states.

@Gascolator: Pilots of manned aircraft absolutely loiter or hold off their attack until cleared in hot by the on scene GFAC, to ensure there are no friendly or civilian casualties if at all possible.
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History lesson 101: make war on a stronger power and people may get killed and things may get broken. For some reason those in Norway don't have to worry about us dropping a bomb on them.
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gascolator;38700 Wrote:This is sort of like saying that Woodrow Wilson was responsible for war crimes for the unprecedented carnage caused by Browning machine guns during the first world war

Only if Wilson ordered where the machine gun should be pointed and when to pull the trigger. Wilson did not approve each bullet and where it was sent as Obama has with the drone's missiles.

Valorius;38706 Wrote:2 of those killed were American citizens, assassinated without trial or charges by the President of the United states.

Exactly! And that is a massive change that few liberals or libertarians for all their principles care to address. Ends and means!
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Dave;38718 Wrote:History lesson 101: make war on a stronger power and people may get killed and things may get broken. For some reason those in Norway don't have to worry about us dropping a bomb on them.

We're keepin' an eye on'em, though! Big Grin
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cgk;38687 Wrote:Four more years of this kind of murder?

"Obama authorized nearly 300 drone strikes in Pakistan during his first four years in office, more than six times the number during the administration of George W. Bush [emphsis added], according to the New America Foundation policy institute.
Why am I just not buying the "poor innocent Pakastani civilians" in the post?

Do you really have to dig this hard?

One minute, Obama is a muslim appeaser...the next, he's killing innocent muslims, lol...
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How about the 2 dead murdered American citizens, including a minor child?

Is that "digging hard"???

Or are you just reading only the parts you want to see?
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' Wrote:Why am I just not buying the "poor innocent Pakastani civilians" in the post?

Do you really have to dig this hard?

One minute, Obama is a muslim appeaser...the next, he's killing innocent muslims, lol...

Makes one laugh, huh? Its right up there with the .gov being too stupid to deliver the mail AND evil enough to control everything. Yet, the 'deep thinkers' keep right on posting their logic.
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Valorius;38995 Wrote:How about the 2 dead murdered American citizens, including a minor child?

Dead AND murdered?

A Minor child?

Guess we should have let bin laden go free so we didn't accidentally hurt his innocent wives.

Sorry guys. It's a war. And pinpoint strikes with drones are still not going to be 100%. Want to really get upset? Look how many innocent people died in Hiroshima/Nagasaki.

If we could get all of the bad guys to report to a predesignated area, we could definitely bat 1000. But they won't do that.

Dave;39036 Wrote:Makes one laugh, huh? Its right up there with the .gov being too stupid to deliver the mail AND evil enough to control everything. Yet, the 'deep thinkers' keep right on posting their logic.

You know, the right's meltdown is sooooooo revealing. The feigned outrage on this site alone is just absolutely pathetic.

Wanna bitch about the economy? be my guest. But digging up humor articles? And the "innocent muslim death"? Weak...Candidate Romney weak....

**Though it is highly entertaining**
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