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Obama to open ‘fiscal cliff’ talks with call for $1.6T in new revenues
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Quote:Obama to open ‘fiscal cliff’ talks with call for $1.6T in new revenues
By Daniel Strauss - 11/14/12 07:41 AM ET

President Obama is taking a tough opening stance in talks over deficit reduction, pushing Republicans to accept a plan that calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue over the next ten years, according to reports.

The figure is double the $800 billion last discussed by the White House and House Speaker Boehner (R-Ohio) during their 2011 negotiations on raising the debt-ceiling limit.


The president’s plan is based on his most recent budget proposal, which sought the $1.6 in new revenues by targeting the wealthy and corporations.

The president and congressional lawmakers are set to meet at the White House on Friday as both sides begin hammering out a deficit-cutting plan that helps the nation move past the “fiscal cliff” of rising tax rates and automatic spending cuts set to take effect in January 2013.

Both sides say they hope to avoid the fiscal cliff, but are at an impasse over taxes, with the president insisting that the wealthy pay more.

Obama hopes to extend the expiring George W. Bush-era tax rates for those families making less than $250,000 per year. Republicans, though, say they want the rates extended across-the-board.

On Tuesday the president met privately with a number of union leaders and liberal activists to discuss his plan. In the meeting Obama reportedly promised to make good on his vow to renew low tax rates for the middle class and let them expire for wealthy households.

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Increasing revenue WITHOUT decreasing spending by $2 for every $1 in revenue will accomplish nothing.
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TAXES.

STOP CALLING IT REVENUE, YOU PLAY THEIR GAME WHEN YOU DO.

THEY ARE TAXES.
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Valorius;41668 Wrote:TAXES.

STOP CALLING IT REVENUE, YOU PLAY THEIR GAME WHEN YOU DO.

THEY ARE TAXES.

Yes, they are taxes, and when it comes to government 'revenue' and 'taxes' are synonymous. The government produces or sells no product, therefore any 'income' is, and only is, in the form of taxes and fees.

I say revenue, because fees are not taxes but count as 'income' on the ledger sheet.
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Revenue is used to fool morons that dont know its taxes they're talking about.

Dont mimic DNC talking points: They're taxes.
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Valorius;41692 Wrote:Revenue is used to fool morons that dont know its taxes they're talking about.

Dont mimic DNC talking points: They're taxes.

I have too many relatives doing that already, what they don't seem to grasp is that they will be the ones adding to the "revenue." Of course since the annointed one will be pushing for it, it won't be taxes in their eyes. Rolleyes
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Valorius;41692 Wrote:Revenue is used to fool morons that dont know its taxes they're talking about.

Dont mimic DNC talking points: They're taxes.

Taxes AND fees. I'm sure it's arguable that fees are a form of taxes, but like I said...that's arguable.

And we all know revenue & taxes equal the same thing in this discussion so using the terms for expediency's sake is passable if you don't want to type taxes & fees constantly.

But yes, talking with others who don't know better it's best to call them what they are...taxes and fees.
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A three syllable word is not an expediency when the alternative word is one syllable.

There is no reason to use the term "revenue" unless your intent is to mimic DNC talking points.
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Valorius;41709 Wrote:There is no reason to use the term "revenue" unless your intent is to mimic DNC talking points.

Well, there is merit to that though, if you're trying to get democrats to pay attention to what you're saying you have to call taxes income, and welfare expenditures.

It makes them feel academic when you talk to them in those terms, and if you don't treat them like they're ever so smart they shut you off while trying to figure out just how racist you really are if you insist on calling 'revenue' taxes Wink
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