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Obama Will Ban Guns without Congressional Approval
#21
I'm confused...GCA68 didn't classify certain firearms as title II, that was the NFA of 1934. The classifications are clearly written in the bill that was passed by congress, so in order to change it, you would need congress to amend the bill. I don't see what GCA68 has to do with this.

Or am I missing something?

ETA: Also, making them title II wouldn't actually ban them, it would just require registration and $200 tax.
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#22
unclejumbo;44246 Wrote:I think what got me about the article is that it was done with the Street Sweeper shotgun. I remember that happening but didn't really care because they were jam-o-matic pieces of crap.

Imagine a situation where it occurs with our evil black rifles. Each one would end up an NFA weapon, transferable with no new ones sold to civilians. If you don't register it, it becomes an unlawful firearm with no value. If you do register it, you may find that it continues to increase in value and you aren't a criminal for having it. What are most people going to do?

Once everyone is on board, then cease transfers of NFA weapons. In one life-span, it would be the end of them. No bloodshed, no revolution. Just turning the heat up a little at a time until we are all cooked.

The street sweeper was different than this. ALL shotguns would be considered "destructive devices" which is title II (because the bore diameter is over .5") but they made an exception for shotguns that have "sporting purposes." The street sweeper has no sporting purpose, so it doesn't fall into the exception.
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#23
bac0nfat;44307 Wrote:
unclejumbo;44246 Wrote:I think what got me about the article is that it was done with the Street Sweeper shotgun. I remember that happening but didn't really care because they were jam-o-matic pieces of crap.

Imagine a situation where it occurs with our evil black rifles. Each one would end up an NFA weapon, transferable with no new ones sold to civilians. If you don't register it, it becomes an unlawful firearm with no value. If you do register it, you may find that it continues to increase in value and you aren't a criminal for having it. What are most people going to do?

Once everyone is on board, then cease transfers of NFA weapons. In one life-span, it would be the end of them. No bloodshed, no revolution. Just turning the heat up a little at a time until we are all cooked.

The street sweeper was different than this. ALL shotguns would be considered "destructive devices" which is title II (because the bore diameter is over .5") but they made an exception for shotguns that have "sporting purposes." The street sweeper has no sporting purpose, so it doesn't fall into the exception.

What happens when they declare shotguns that aren't inherently designed for hunting as DD's? Wasn't that brought up 2 years ago when there was talk about making the Saiga Title II?
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#24
Put a stock on a street sweeper and it has as much "sporting purpose" as any other riot gun.
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#25
bac0nfat;44307 Wrote:
unclejumbo;44246 Wrote:I think what got me about the article is that it was done with the Street Sweeper shotgun. I remember that happening but didn't really care because they were jam-o-matic pieces of crap.

Imagine a situation where it occurs with our evil black rifles. Each one would end up an NFA weapon, transferable with no new ones sold to civilians. If you don't register it, it becomes an unlawful firearm with no value. If you do register it, you may find that it continues to increase in value and you aren't a criminal for having it. What are most people going to do?

Once everyone is on board, then cease transfers of NFA weapons. In one life-span, it would be the end of them. No bloodshed, no revolution. Just turning the heat up a little at a time until we are all cooked.

The street sweeper was different than this. ALL shotguns would be considered "destructive devices" which is title II (because the bore diameter is over .5") but they made an exception for shotguns that have "sporting purposes." The street sweeper has no sporting purpose, so it doesn't fall into the exception.

Thank you, that is some of what I was looking for. It struck me that if it was possible as explained, it already would have happened.
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#26
No one ever told me I wasn't supposed to use my stryker for sporting clays. No wonder evryone looks at me strange when I show up with that thing!
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#27
streaker69;44308 Wrote:
bac0nfat;44307 Wrote:The street sweeper was different than this. ALL shotguns would be considered "destructive devices" which is title II (because the bore diameter is over .5") but they made an exception for shotguns that have "sporting purposes." The street sweeper has no sporting purpose, so it doesn't fall into the exception.

What happens when they declare shotguns that aren't inherently designed for hunting as DD's? Wasn't that brought up 2 years ago when there was talk about making the Saiga Title II?

That's exactly right, and a very strong possibility that it will still happen. And not just with Saiga's but lots of other shotguns, especially if they have pistol grips and "high capacity" mag tubes, or any kind of detachable mag.
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#28
We said before that OMao was Liberalism on Steroids. We said a second term with no consequences will be devastating.
It was no joke or tin foil.
Now sit down and watch the madness.
"In 4 more OMao years you won't like how America looks....I guarantee it."
“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” -- Thomas Jefferson
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#29
(11-20-2012, 08:47 PM)Pocketprotector Wrote: We said before that OMao was Liberalism on Steroids. We said a second term with no consequences will be devastating.
It was no joke or tin foil.
Now sit down and watch the madness.

I should buy some stock in Alcoa, the major suppliers of tin foil.
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#30
ArcticSplash;44321 Wrote:I should buy some stock in Alcoa, the major suppliers of tin foil.

I know you are being sarcastic, but on a serious note Ruger's stock price was at $8.73 on 11/16/2007. On 11/16/2012, it was valued at $48.10. I also wished I bought stock in Texas Instruments (not only do they make calculators, but they also build laser guided bombs) before Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom. I always tell my family if you are going to invest in something, invest in companies who build weapons. Big Grin
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