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So I have a question that I was thinking about. I'm a strong supporter of OC and have declined proof of ID when being stopped for OC before when I was walking in Reading. But only have been asked once, I had to pull the Am I being detained speech over and over again until I got a no and I walked away.

I was wondering if a LEO sees you from a distance getting out of your car or at a place where vehicle transportation is the only "reasonable" way to get there. And you get stopped and demanded for ID because you "were" in a vehicle or "had" to be in a vehicle to get to the location.

For instance. I get out of my car and I am walking towards a store. Lets say you're parked 35 yards away and you get stopped 10 yards from the destination. What should you do? The normal decline consent because OC is legal? Keep walking? I feel this is a pretty fine line to walk on and could become horrible on your part.
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AndrewG23;13914 Wrote:So I have a question that I was thinking about. I'm a strong supporter of OC and have declined proof of ID when being stopped for OC before when I was walking in Reading. But only have been asked once, I had to pull the Am I being detained speech over and over again until I got a no and I walked away.

I was wondering if a LEO sees you from a distance getting out of your car or at a place where vehicle transportation is the only "reasonable" way to get there. And you get stopped and demanded for ID because you "were" in a vehicle or "had" to be in a vehicle to get to the location.

For instance. I get out of my car and I am walking towards a store. Lets say you're parked 35 yards away and you get stopped 10 yards from the destination. What should you do? The normal decline consent because OC is legal? Keep walking? I feel this is a pretty fine line to walk on and could become horrible on your part.

Seems like a pretty easy question, if he saw you get out of a car then you would be required to show him your ltcf.
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At those distances, it's probably safe to assume he saw you get out of the car.
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What is the crime suspected....that there should be a reason to show ID?
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Should he be required to show DL JUST because he was seen getting out of the vehicle? With no crime suspected....

jerkin;13947 Wrote:
AndrewG23;13914 Wrote:So I have a question that I was thinking about. I'm a strong supporter of OC and have declined proof of ID when being stopped for OC before when I was walking in Reading. But only have been asked once, I had to pull the Am I being detained speech over and over again until I got a no and I walked away.

I was wondering if a LEO sees you from a distance getting out of your car or at a place where vehicle transportation is the only "reasonable" way to get there. And you get stopped and demanded for ID because you "were" in a vehicle or "had" to be in a vehicle to get to the location.

For instance. I get out of my car and I am walking towards a store. Lets say you're parked 35 yards away and you get stopped 10 yards from the destination. What should you do? The normal decline consent because OC is legal? Keep walking? I feel this is a pretty fine line to walk on and could become horrible on your part.

Seems like a pretty easy question, if he saw you get out of a car then you would be required to show him your ltcf.
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Publican;13952 Wrote:What is the crime suspected....that there should be a reason to show ID?

When you are CCin you are required to show LTCF and ID. I OC, so when getting out of the car OCin and a LEO "sees" you getting out.

Or say you are somewhere OCin and this particular place can only be TRAVELED to by VEHICLE and you're minding your own business. Is it grounds for a LEO to walk up to you demanding for LTCF and ID just because you couldn't walk there assuming that you were in a VEHICLE?

Simple question but the first one isn't really the main Q.
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No. Unless he pulled you over, you have no reason to ID yourself.
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Ok. Idk it's just iffy to me in situations like say you're pumping gas and then standing in line to pay a LEO is behind you in line. Then bothers you while walking to your car about it. Because you will be getting in you car and to do so you are required a LTCF.

I've never heard stories about encounters like that to know how it "could" turn out.
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Jah gave the correct and direct answer. I gave one so people could possibly see why the answer is NO Smile
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Can they question people getting out of cars if they have a valid drivers license and insurance?
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