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Online Auctions... A few tips for sellers...
#1
I sell sometimes and buy sometimes on internet auctions.

Today, with some money to spend I was browsing the C&R listings on one of the gun sites.
I then moved to some modern stuff.
I noticed:

FRIGGIN' ALL CAPS!!!!!!
These people are total and utter idiots that are only slightly less moronic than the ALL CAPS people that also never learned what a paragraph is.

Poor pictures, so poor that IMO they were purposely taking with a crappy camera, with the lights off and by an elderly man with the shakes for no other reason than to hide the real condition of the firearm listed.
There is no other explanation other than total incompetence.
Either way, I will not bid on an auction with crap pictures.

One guy had four pictures of a rifle that should be sold in the $750 range.
The pictures are fuzzy and taken from just far enough away to not show any detail.
The current bid is less than $300 and I would bid but he claims his photographer only comes in every two weeks.
Boy, I wish I had the money for a photographer that took crappy pictures that actually are costing me money.

Creepy/gross pictures.
What's with the black rubber stalker gloves?
How about close ups of knuckle hair?
Black crap under fingernails?
Better yet, how about bare feet pictures with knuckle hair?
Pictures of a firearm taken on a bed with dirty sheets? Really?

Pictures of a Mosin with none showing the barrel shank, the most important feature that every Mosin collector wants to see.

RARE!!!!
(when it's not)

Reserves.
Why? Make the opening bid your reserve.
I don't waste my time on reserve auctions, start it at what you think it is worth, if nobody agrees you can keep it.

Import marks.
If it has one state as much, a picture is better, if no picture at least tell us where it is, receiver or barrel.
Yes, it makes a difference to some people.

VET BRINGBACK!!!!!
Unless it has papers to prove so, it's just a story and your inflated price is a joke.

Read the NRA guide to rating firearms if you are going to claim something is in excellent condition.
9/10 your excellent is not.

A Century built Cetme is not an assault rifle, no matter how many times you claim it to be in the listing.

If the bore is so dirty you cannot give a description of it other than "Bore needs a good cleaning", how about dragging your lazy ass over to a table and getting out a boresnake?
Again, sounds like shyster talk.



Geez, a guy has money to spend and cannot because of this idiocy?
Some people need to read this book: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936976021/ref=...jwbZH1GAZF

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#2
Some people just don't understand how to shut up and take your money.

Beyond all that, I had a guy yesterday decline selling to me because he thought "FTF" was a literal, and LEGAL requirement for a sale between two PA residents - he would not ship for that reason.

I responded within 2 minutes of the ad posting and offered the asking price without any haggling.

Nope.
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#3
Emptymag;171344 Wrote:Some people just don't understand how to shut up and take your money.

Beyond all that, I had a guy yesterday decline selling to me because he thought "FTF" was a literal, and LEGAL requirement for a sale between two PA residents - he would not ship for that reason.

I responded within 2 minutes of the ad posting and offered the asking price without any haggling.

Nope.

It's tough to get people to understand the laws after years of internet lawyers and gunshop know it all's.
I have people in PA refusing to sell me a WWII era handgun in a FTF with my C&R because a guy told them EVERY handgun sale in PA needs to be transferred, or better yet, registered.
My brother was posting over on poofa and got into one with some jackass claiming that every handgun sale in PA required a PICS.
He tried to get the guy to understand that his wording was not accurate and after Gunlawyer threatened to ban him he just walked away from the place as I have done(except to occasionally sell).

Well anyway, I don't advertise that I will direct ship, I specify a FFL but if someone asks I will do so, but I will only ship to the address on their PA DL and they have to cover the signature required fee.
Some people need to read this book: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936976021/ref=...jwbZH1GAZF

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#4
Hey you can get good deals from people who are too lazy to take good photos. It's a bit of a risk but can work out nicely. I replaced my husband's plain gold wedding band with a diamond one from a guy on Ebay who posted a blurry picture. Of course I wrote and asked questions, but then bought it for a great price.

I'm sure gun auctions could be the same.

I agree about reserves. Never could understand the point, other than attracting bidders by an artificially low price.
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#5
Maybe.
But blurry pics in a firearm listing can hide rust, dents, dings, electropenciled social security numbers, cracks, mismatched serial numbers, bent sights, etc...

Asking questions are good but you are still relying on the sellers honesty.
Sellers also need to realize that this kind of crappy photography costs them real dollars in the form of lost bids.
Some people need to read this book: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936976021/ref=...jwbZH1GAZF

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#6
I have a background in advertising design/layout.

Imagine what goes through my mind when I see the dumb crap you have pointed out.

Big Grin
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#7
I agree with what has been posted but it also works the other way sometimes. I happen to collect the Ruger Six series DA's (Security, Police Service and Speed). I saw an ad, with pretty good pictures, but the sellers word picture did not match what he had. I could tell by the pictures that it was a pretty rare model but if you didn't know what to look for and used the photos and word description, most would pass as it was described basically as a run of the mill revolver. I knew better and got it for at least half of what it should have gone for.

Many people sell guns and really don't know what they have and don't do their homework on grandpas old Remington Model 8 in perfect condition and sell it for a lot less because it is so old they think it doesn't really have much value.

If the photos are not good enough, and I am interested, I'll ask the seller some very specific questions which to answer correctly they will have to examine the gun. The vast majority of the time I either don't get an answer, or the answer tells me they didn't look at the gun to answer my questions. Little do they realize that I (or someone else) may very well make them a VERY good offer if they would just get off their lazy asses and respond to the questions.

When I sell something, I am extremely critical of the pictures I take. In fact I did a major upgrade from what I thought was a pretty good camera because I just didn't like the outcome of the close up photos I had taken. I also describe it as best I can noting anything of interest and/or anything not quite perfect. I always want the prospective buyers to see what I am selling and to understand why I am pricing it they way I do.
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#8
Emptymag;171350 Wrote:I have a background in advertising design/layout.

Imagine what goes through my mind when I see the dumb crap you have pointed out.

Big Grin

"Hmmmm... That gun would look so much cooler on a background of crushed stone."

Am I close?
Ammunition, it's the new lead bullion. Buy it cheap and stack it deep.
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#9
Rik Bitter;171352 Wrote:
Emptymag;171350 Wrote:I have a background in advertising design/layout.

Imagine what goes through my mind when I see the dumb crap you have pointed out.

Big Grin

"Hmmmm... That gun would look so much cooler on a background of crushed stone."

Am I close?


You're on FIRE!

LOL!
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#10
My favorite that I see all the time on CL is people with no pictures, no description, no make, no model, just a single line of text.
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