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#1
NV is not something I am versed in. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Entry-Level-AN-P...27cad2945b

Can I do better? I read the ANVIS tubes are great but will not having the ability to adjust the gain manually really be a big problem should the Zombies ever really attack?
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#2
My Spidey-sense is tingling - especially where fleabay is involved.

According to the fine print, this guy cobbled this thing together himself.  The only thing I trust LESS than homemade nightvision, is homemade nightvision sold ON fleabay! [Image: smiley-shocked003.gif]

I just caught this on Survivalblog yesterday - http://www.survivalblog.com/2012/09/odds...-2359.html

Quote:Ready Made Resources is having a special on genuine full mil-spec AN/PVS-14 Gen 3+ night vision scopes. For a limited time they are offering these "grade A" scopes with a free Picatinny rail weapons mount, free shutter eyepiece and free shipping. As usual, these include aa head mount and carry case . These have a five year warranty and free annual maintenance for five years. Normally $3,895, these are on sale for $2,795 with free shipping.

Yeah, it's a thousand bucks more than fleabay, but you get GENUINE, from-the-factory-issued gear, WITH a warranty, and some bonus gear.

It ain't cheap, but neither is taking $1,800 out to your driveway, and setting it on fire! Confused
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#3
If you want cheap, homemade night vision go to youtube and type kipkay into the search engine. He has a video that shows how to make a night vision set up with a small IR camera, some IR LEDs and the viewfinder from an old camcorder.
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(09-17-2012, 03:34 PM)Warpt762x39 Wrote: If you want cheap, homemade night vision go to youtube and type kipkay into the search engine. He has a video that shows how to make a night vision set up with a small IR camera, some IR LEDs and the viewfinder from an old camcorder.


I've seen that, but it's not really night vision the way most military night vision stuff works. The early good military night vision are actually light amplifiers, sometimes increasing the amount of available light 10000x. The kind you're talking about uses IR LED's to illuminate the area with IR light, which the CCD in a camera naturally picks up, as the CCD's don't really care if it's visible light or IR light (point your remote control at your digital camera sometime, you'll see what I mean).

This doesn't take into account for the current FLIR technology that isn't really available to the general populace.

The other issue is that the current stock of available IR LED's have a very limited range, maybe 20 feet if that. It might be good inside, but outside worthless. There are IR Illuminators on the market, but the really good ones that function light a floodlight are expensive. It would be great if they'd make CREE IR LED's, but I haven't seen them yet. Once those are available, then IR Illumination for outdoors will be great.

BTW, one of the first generation night vision products had an amplifier board that was 7 layers. There were times where internal layers would be shorted together and they'd start to get hot and melt the fiberglass substrate. Also, the early IR scope that was available on the TOW missiles was sensitive enough to see foot prints made by someone walking barefoot across a cold floor. Wink
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(09-17-2012, 04:12 PM)streaker69 Wrote:
(09-17-2012, 03:34 PM)Warpt762x39 Wrote: If you want cheap, homemade night vision go to youtube and type kipkay into the search engine. He has a video that shows how to make a night vision set up with a small IR camera, some IR LEDs and the viewfinder from an old camcorder.


I've seen that, but it's not really night vision the way most military night vision stuff works. The early good military night vision are actually light amplifiers, sometimes increasing the amount of available light 10000x. The kind you're talking about uses IR LED's to illuminate the area with IR light, which the CCD in a camera naturally picks up, as the CCD's don't really care if it's visible light or IR light (point your remote control at your digital camera sometime, you'll see what I mean).

This doesn't take into account for the current FLIR technology that isn't really available to the general populace.

The other issue is that the current stock of available IR LED's have a very limited range, maybe 20 feet if that. It might be good inside, but outside worthless. There are IR Illuminators on the market, but the really good ones that function light a floodlight are expensive. It would be great if they'd make CREE IR LED's, but I haven't seen them yet. Once those are available, then IR Illumination for outdoors will be great.

BTW, one of the first generation night vision products had an amplifier board that was 7 layers. There were times where internal layers would be shorted together and they'd start to get hot and melt the fiberglass substrate. Also, the early IR scope that was available on the TOW missiles was sensitive enough to see foot prints made by someone walking barefoot across a cold floor. Wink

Those are Gen 1 and above. Gen 0 needed outside IR light. The M1 Carbine IR scope was like that too. Soviet SVD scopes had IR detection built into them but couldn't actually see in the dark. They were made to spot IR light sources like the early, pre Starlight, night vision scopes. Once the Starlights came online, there was no need for IR detection since the new scopes amplified existing light instead of using IR lights.
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