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Outrage over sensible bill
#1
Even more interesting than this long overdue bill, is the outrage people are having over it.....really???? Some comments I've seen on Facebook are ridiculous....complaining about big government and saying how bad things are getting. OH BROTHER.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/28724273/kans...s-psychics

Quote:Republican Gov. Sam Brownback and his allies are emphasizing how they believe a social services bill approved by lawmakers this week helps move people from state assistance into decent jobs.

The bill puts policies imposed by Brownback's administration into state law, so they'll be harder to undo later. A key policy requires able-bodied adults receiving temporary cash assistance to work, be looking for a job, or to enroll in job training.

But lawmakers added rules, too. One limits ATM withdrawals with assistance cards to $25 a day, to make it harder for benefits to be converted to cash and used for non-essential items.

The list of banned uses would not only include alcohol, tobacco, gambling and sexually oriented materials, but other entertainment, including movie theaters and swimming pools. Cash assistance couldn't be used in nail salons or spas, on cruise ships or at tattoo or body-piercing parlors. Also out: Any "psychic or fortune telling business."

"I just think we are simply saying to people, 'If you are asking for assistance in this state, you're sort of less than other people and we're going to tell you how and where to spend your money,'" Rep. Carolyn Bridges, a Wichita Democrat, said during the House's debate.

See bolded... "Your money"????? See now that's the problem. The state isn't telling anyone how to use THEIR money. It's going to tell you how to use taxpayer money. It's going to tell you that you can't go on cruises or get your nails done or get a tattoo using tax money. OH how unfair???? NOT.

I have never gone on a cruise. I have had my nails done maybe three times in my life professionally (I usually do my own). We don't do a lot of outside entertainment because it adds up fast for four kids. But yet, it's unfair telling people who actually did not work for their money, that it's not fair that THEY can't do all these things?

It's bad enough people on EBT live on Wawa food (seen it), let alone that people on welfare are living the "easy come, easy go" life. Talked to a person who repo's cars about how many fancy SUV's he has repo-ed with EBT cards on the front seat. And here we are trying to find a used car that will cost the same as whatever we get from insurance from our car accident because we had two paid off cars and we don't want to add another car payment...since we actually have to WORK for that money.....

Kudos to Kansas for passing a reasonable, long overdue bill. I hope other states follow suit. There is absolutely NOTHING to complain about if you are getting assistance, and all you are allowed to spend it on is food and bills. That's what MOST people are doing, anyway, after they get home from their workweek. Sheesh.
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Yeah, the shitballs who abuse the public welfare are just plain scum. There is zero point in trying to rationalize with them or to those who pander to their votes. While also burdening every tax payer with their thievery, they also take food/money out of the mouths/wallets of those who actually need it.

I support sever penalties for such abuses... think: ISIS
tolerance for failure meter... LOW
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RugerGirl;164134 Wrote:Even more interesting than this long overdue bill, is the outrage people are having over it.....really???? Some comments I've seen on Facebook are ridiculous....complaining about big government and saying how bad things are getting. OH BROTHER.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/28724273/kans...s-psychics

Quote:Republican Gov. Sam Brownback and his allies are emphasizing how they believe a social services bill approved by lawmakers this week helps move people from state assistance into decent jobs.

The bill puts policies imposed by Brownback's administration into state law, so they'll be harder to undo later. A key policy requires able-bodied adults receiving temporary cash assistance to work, be looking for a job, or to enroll in job training.

But lawmakers added rules, too. One limits ATM withdrawals with assistance cards to $25 a day, to make it harder for benefits to be converted to cash and used for non-essential items.

The list of banned uses would not only include alcohol, tobacco, gambling and sexually oriented materials, but other entertainment, including movie theaters and swimming pools. Cash assistance couldn't be used in nail salons or spas, on cruise ships or at tattoo or body-piercing parlors. Also out: Any "psychic or fortune telling business."

"I just think we are simply saying to people, 'If you are asking for assistance in this state, you're sort of less than other people and we're going to tell you how and where to spend your money,'" Rep. Carolyn Bridges, a Wichita Democrat, said during the House's debate.

See bolded... "Your money"????? See now that's the problem. The state isn't telling anyone how to use THEIR money. It's going to tell you how to use taxpayer money. It's going to tell you that you can't go on cruises or get your nails done or get a tattoo using tax money. OH how unfair???? NOT.

I have never gone on a cruise. I have had my nails done maybe three times in my life professionally (I usually do my own). We don't do a lot of outside entertainment because it adds up fast for four kids. But yet, it's unfair telling people who actually did not work for their money, that it's not fair that THEY can't do all these things?

It's bad enough people on EBT live on Wawa food (seen it), let alone that people on welfare are living the "easy come, easy go" life. Talked to a person who repo's cars about how many fancy SUV's he has repo-ed with EBT cards on the front seat. And here we are trying to find a used car that will cost the same as whatever we get from insurance from our car accident because we had two paid off cars and we don't want to add another car payment...since we actually have to WORK for that money.....

Kudos to Kansas for passing a reasonable, long overdue bill. I hope other states follow suit. There is absolutely NOTHING to complain about if you are getting assistance, and all you are allowed to spend it on is food and bills. That's what MOST people are doing, anyway, after they get home from their workweek. Sheesh.

Why do you think they started calling them "entitlements"? Obama's sons and daughters are entitled to them as a back door form of reparations. This is just grandstanding and identity politics by liberal scumbags who like to play the race card for the sake of capturing the vote of the "low information voters" out there so they can get in office and vote in more "entitlements" to steal more votes to continue the vicious cycle of debt we are in. I'm still amazed at how the SNAP program never runs out of money or it's funding called into question, but soc sec always is in limbo. If only old people started threatening to burn their retirement homes down and rioting...
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#4
If you want the foaming at the mouth liberal side of the story read the comments...

http://gawker.com/poor-families-deserve-...1696310140
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#5
Just makes me wish our economy would tank, so these assholes could see what it's really like to be broke.
Welcome to ObamaNation part deuxUtg
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God's Country;164173 Wrote:Just makes me wish our economy would tank, so these assholes could see what it's really like to be broke.

It already has tanked... close the doors of the FED, and while you're at it everything else as well, and it would all crash overnight. It would be like pulling back the curtain and seeing the wizard pulling the levers in the Wizard of Oz. We have no real economy, even the shitstorm we're in now is an illusion. It's all rigged, broken, and propped up. People always say that gov't solves the problems, yeah but only the ones they created in the first place. In turn for causing the problems, the offer solutions that cause more problems. If you yanked all "entitlements" this country would burn to the ground. I'm starting to think that's not so bad anymore.
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#7
People say how "cruel" it is.... I say yeah.... It's cruel to give these people free vacation and tattoo money while the working class can't afford those same things. That's what's cruel.
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RugerGirl;164175 Wrote:People say how "cruel" it is.... I say yeah.... It's cruel to give these people free vacation and tattoo money while the working class can't afford those same things. That's what's cruel.

It's basically like someone watching you give a homeless person your pocket change and then the person who was watching and contributes nothing berates you and calls you cruel because you didn't give them the last $10 you needed for your own lunch.
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Emoticon;164178 Wrote:
RugerGirl;164175 Wrote:People say how "cruel" it is.... I say yeah.... It's cruel to give these people free vacation and tattoo money while the working class can't afford those same things. That's what's cruel.

It's basically like someone watching you give a homeless person your pocket change and then the person who was watching and contributes nothing berates you and calls you cruel because you didn't give them the last $10 you needed for your own lunch.

No, it's like being forced to give him $5, then seeing him go buy himself a hoagie at Wawa while I go make a pot of spaghetti to feed my family because that's all I can afford after buying his hoagie....then being told I am cruel for hoping he would use the money more judiciously.
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#10
If I were king I would not allow people on food stamps, Medicaid, sec 8 etc to vote themselves a raise...but I'm a hateful racist apparently...
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