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PA AG Kane in Philly today to end "FL Loophole"
Camper;78294 Wrote:
velkly;78289 Wrote:Don't see how guilt by association, given no background issues, can be used to deny. If this is the acceptable litmus test then I know several pastors who should be examined for spending far too much time at the local prison.

There is a difference between counseling people in prison every week vs going to a known drug lords house for a party every weekend.

Simple exaggeration to make a point. Going to that drug lords house for a party every weekend doesn't prove that you are a user or a dealer, simply acquainted with someone that is. Not that it's the smartest move or remotely prudent, but innocent until proven guilty is still the basis of law.
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velkly;79396 Wrote:
Camper;78294 Wrote:There is a difference between counseling people in prison every week vs going to a known drug lords house for a party every weekend.

Simple exaggeration to make a point. Going to that drug lords house for a party every weekend doesn't prove that you are a user or a dealer, simply acquainted with someone that is. Not that it's the smartest move or remotely prudent, but innocent until proven guilty is still the basis of law.

How do you feel about Obama's political aspirations originating in a known terrorists house? Or the church he attended for 20+ years being an anti-white church?
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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Camper;79444 Wrote:
velkly;79396 Wrote:Simple exaggeration to make a point. Going to that drug lords house for a party every weekend doesn't prove that you are a user or a dealer, simply acquainted with someone that is. Not that it's the smartest move or remotely prudent, but innocent until proven guilty is still the basis of law.

How do you feel about Obama's political aspirations originating in a known terrorists house? Or the church he attended for 20+ years being an anti-white church?

Point well made, and taken. Though my feelings wouldn't have precluded him from practicing his inalienable right; which does not include [pretending to be] President of the United States.
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" - Ronald Reagan

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money” - Alexis de Tocqueville
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velkly;79586 Wrote:
Camper;79444 Wrote:How do you feel about Obama's political aspirations originating in a known terrorists house? Or the church he attended for 20+ years being an anti-white church?

Point well made, and taken. Though my feelings wouldn't have precluded him from practicing his inalienable right; which does not include [pretending to be] President of the United States.

This is why it's a tough topic. It's one thing to hang out and be friends with someone who is later determined to be a criminal when you weren't aware of it, but it's entirely different if they are a known criminal, and YOU know they are as well but still surround yourself with these people for camaraderie and fun.

In the Obama case, if he wants to hang around these people every day have at it--but if he wants to become president, or be put in charge of huge sums of money (like at a bank) or be authorized to carry firearms on his person then the type of people he prefers to associate with is relevant.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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Camper;79614 Wrote:This is why it's a tough topic. It's one thing to hang out and be friends with someone who is later determined to be a criminal when you weren't aware of it, but it's entirely different if they are a known criminal, and YOU know they are as well but still surround yourself with these people for camaraderie and fun.

In the Obama case, if he wants to hang around these people every day have at it--but if he wants to become president, or be put in charge of huge sums of money (like at a bank) or be authorized to carry firearms on his person then the type of people he prefers to associate with is relevant.

a free man asks no one for permission. for a right to have these limitations makes them privledges instead of rights. I support constitutional carry. I acknowledge that means some people that may make me uncomfortable carrying, but that's something I'm willing to accept because rights belong to all citizens, not just ones that have the stae's permission.
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Borrowed from PAFOA ...

Quote:Got the following personal e-mail response from my representative, Will Tallman.

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I always appreciate the opportunity to communicate with fellow residents of the 193rd Legislative District. You had contacted me about the recent announcement by Attorney General Kane that she has modified the Commonwealth’s reciprocity agreement with Florida concerning mutual recognition of licenses to carry a firearm.

The language of our Uniform Firearms Act which addresses these reciprocity agreements is found in Subsection (k) of Section 6109 of Title 18 (Crimes Code). This subsection reads as follows:

(k) Reciprocity.--
(1) The Attorney General shall have the power and duty to enter into reciprocity agreements with other states providing for the mutual recognition of a license to carry a firearm issued by the Commonwealth and a license or permit to carry a firearm issued by the other state. To carry out this duty, the Attorney General is authorized to negotiate reciprocity agreements and grant recognition of a license or permit to carry a firearm issued by another state.
(2) The Attorney General shall report to the General Assembly within 180 days of the effective date of this paragraph and annually thereafter concerning the agreements which have been consummated under this subsection.

While the law does offer some level of discretion for the Attorney General to “negotiate” these agreements, I do not believe it authorizes the distinction between licensed individuals envisioned by the Attorney General. In other words, the law says that the agreements provide for “mutual recognition of a license to carry a firearm issued by the Commonwealth and a license or permit to carry a firearm issued by the other state.” (emphasis added). It does not restrict reciprocity agreements only to residents of that “other state.” In order for Attorney General Kane to have the statutory authority to make this change, I believe the law would have had to be amended to include this specific exclusion ,which it was not.

Pennsylvania’s former Attorney General, and current Governor, had expressed the same opinion during his gubernatorial campaign. On September 21, 2010, the spokesman for then-Attorney General Corbett answered a question about the so-called “Florida Loophole.” He stated, “"The Attorney General of Pennsylvania cannot unilaterally change the laws of Pennsylvania. In order for that provision to be changed, it must be done by the Pennsylvania legislature." See http://whyy.org/cms/news/government-...football/46084.

Please be assured that I will keep your thoughts in mind if the opportunity to legislatively address these issues arises.

Will
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I never did get a reply.... I just pinged him and asked him to respond.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X716XVWo6NE
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soberbyker;82968 Wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X716XVWo6NE

If only PPD was "law abiding" there would be little need for Rep. Pyle ask such questions...
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