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Pa. trooper killed in ambush on barracks
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Ten*K;153827 Wrote:Been mulling this over and I have several big questions/concerns. Feel free to participate.

There must be a why to this. It's not random... someone knows what the connection is and is keeping quiet.

What reasons do the PSP have to think the shooter is still in the area at all? Do they have information that confirms more targets?

This alleged shooter is a trained survivalist. If he had any sense, which we would have to believe he does, he would have done the deed and skeedaddled to a pre staged refuge... One that likely is nowhere near his home area, well provisioned, and likely fortified and booby trapped.

You can bet with a certainty that there are urchins in the media and political hacks that will attempt to draw links between this very isolated act and "Right Wing Tea Party Extremists"... just like every other time a crazed white guy pulls the trigger.

How long do the PSP and area police expect to keep up an all out search and disrupt everyone's lives?

They found his AK at a camp site that led them to this area.
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Tootie;153831 Wrote:
Ten*K;153827 Wrote:Been mulling this over and I have several big questions/concerns. Feel free to participate.

There must be a why to this. It's not random... someone knows what the connection is and is keeping quiet.

What reasons do the PSP have to think the shooter is still in the area at all? Do they have information that confirms more targets?

This alleged shooter is a trained survivalist. If he had any sense, which we would have to believe he does, he would have done the deed and skeedaddled to a pre staged refuge... One that likely is nowhere near his home area, well provisioned, and likely fortified and booby trapped.

You can bet with a certainty that there are urchins in the media and political hacks that will attempt to draw links between this very isolated act and "Right Wing Tea Party Extremists"... just like every other time a crazed white guy pulls the trigger.

How long do the PSP and area police expect to keep up an all out search and disrupt everyone's lives?

They found his AK at a camp site that led them to this area.

Boy, that's convenient. Yep... Let me just plant this evidence over in this area here so they don't look for me over there.
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Ten*K;153827 Wrote:Been mulling this over and I have several big questions/concerns. Feel free to participate.

There must be a why to this. It's not random... someone knows what the connection is and is keeping quiet.

I do think it's random in the sense that he didn't pick those people to shoot. It isn't random in that he's angry at law enforcement and government. Something likely tipped him over the edge to do what he did.

Ten*K;153827 Wrote:What reasons do the PSP have to think the shooter is still in the area at all? Do they have information that confirms more targets?

What do we know? His car got stuck. Likely no stolen cars in the area that they're aware of. No cellphone or he'd be caught already which means it would be tough for him to make contact with someone to help him get away. Heavy saturation of police in the area means escape would have to be through the woods and not by road.

Ten*K;153827 Wrote:This alleged shooter is a trained survivalist. If he had any sense, which we would have to believe he does, he would have done the deed and skeedaddled to a pre staged refuge... One that likely is nowhere near his home area, well provisioned, and likely fortified and booby trapped.

I think he had one plan and that was to escape in his Jeep. He fucked that up and had no contingency plan. Maybe he even built a camp somewhere to escape to but never got that for.

Ten*K;153827 Wrote:You can bet with a certainty that there are urchins in the media and political hacks that will attempt to draw links between this very isolated act and "Right Wing Tea Party Extremists"... just like every other time a crazed white guy pulls the trigger.

I've actually been somewhat surprised by the lack of speculation. Maybe "survivalist" "reenactor" and "taught as a child to shoot" where enough for them. They haven't run with a political angle to any great extent.

Ten*K;153827 Wrote:How long do the PSP and area police expect to keep up an all out search and disrupt everyone's lives?

Until he's caught or there is reasonable certainty that he's no longer in the area.
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#44
I'm hoping he does get caught, but if he is dumb enough to "lose" his AK and his Jeep, then he should have been caught already. What's the likelihood those are just misdirection?

How long is "reasonably sure"? Days? Weeks? Years?
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Ten*K;153836 Wrote:I'm hoping he does get caught, but if he is dumb enough to "lose" his AK and his Jeep, then he should have been caught already. What's the likelihood those are just misdirection?

How long is "reasonably sure"? Days? Weeks? Years?

My problem with the misdirection is why? Why let the world know who you are? Now, I will grant that it's possible this is exactly what he wanted to do, play escape and evade while the world learns his name. If a shooter dies when the cops are closing in immediately after the crime, he never gets to see all of his news coverage.

I think he probably wasn't planning on giving up his camp. He was either out when they found it or scrambled and grabbed what he could grab.

If they continue searching and find nothing new, it will become apparent he's no longer in the area.
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#46
I find it hard to believe that an experienced survivalist would allow himself to be caught without a Plan B, C, D, E, and F.

He's hiding/traveling in the woods. School kids aren't in any danger, IMO.
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#47
Well, if he's into gaming scenarios as much as they've told us, maybe this is his last scenario. Shoot a couple of LEOs and evade capture.

He could be just sloppy or not as smart as we might think, but the clues/evidence he has left sitting out so far are way too obvious.

However, he has evaded capture this long . . . . .
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halftrack;153850 Wrote:However, he has evaded capture this long . . . . .

If another case in recent memory is any indication, it could be some time still.
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(09-21-2014, 11:26 AM)halftrack Wrote: Well, if he's into gaming scenarios as much as they've told us, maybe this is his last scenario. Shoot a couple of LEOs and evade capture.

He could be just sloppy or not as smart as we might think, but the clues/evidence he has left sitting out so far are way too obvious.

However, he has evaded capture this long . . . . .

That was my original thought, in that for someone who is supposed to be the clever, cunning, "Soldier", he is either misdirecting or he's dumber than dirt.
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#50
PSP says he cut his hair in a mohawk as part of his "prep for his attack". Srsly?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/19/justice/pe...-shooting/

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State Police Lt. Col. George Bivens said Frein has an apparent fascination with Eastern European armies, their history and attire. His simulation group -- which Bivens declined to name -- would stage reenactments using Airsoft guns.

In this case, though, authorities say Frein is using live ammunition and shooting to kill.

Bivens said Frein has "his head shaved on the sides with long hair on top," wider than a "mohawk" haircut, apparently as part of his mental preparation for his attacks on the troopers. The hairstyle is "completely different from what he had worn for years.

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