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Petraeus, Rice, Obama, & Benghazi
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I’m confused.

I read General Petraeus’ testimony stating that his immediate report (and the CIA’s) stated that the Benghazi massacre was an act of terrorism. He further stated he has no idea who changed the report and removed the cause as terrorism and stated that a movie caused it. He said he has no idea where Ambassador Rice got her information or why she and Hillary Clinton continued to state the same thing for several days after the attack.

Now, 97 members of Congress have sent a letter to the president stating, “Ambassador Rice is widely viewed to have either willfully or incompetently misled the American public on the Benghazi matter.” They say they will not support her nomination for Secretary of State, just in case Obama was thinking that way.

I now see where USA Today is running a story suggesting that Sen. McCain is launching a new war on women by question Rice’s actions. And, I see where Diane Feinstein, a Democrat is saying we shouldn’t blame Rice as she was only relating what the CIA told her. And, there a lot more media stories totally contradicting what Petraeus stated, as if they know what happened better than the head of the CIA. And, astoundingly, there are many, many blog posts that state this is a witch hunt by Republicans because they lost the election.

Here comes the confused part. WTF is wrong with these people, media, elected officials, etc. that they refuse to accept what Petraeus stated? He said the information was there from the get-go and someone removed it and tried to make it look like a spontaneous uprising because of a movie. There wasn't anything wishy-washy about his testimony.

I mean this seems to be black & white to me. Someone, probably Obama (or whoever "The White House" is these days) changed the report and told Susan Rice what to say. They probably promised her a plush job like Sec. of State after the election. How can the most ardent supporters of Obama be willing to totally ignore the deaths of 4 Americans, a conspiracy of lies and deceit, and the continuation of the same? And, why is main stream media willing to provide red herrings and straw men to promulgate these lies?

It just confuses me. There must be something very big that I'm missing. Shrug
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Bob, you're not REALLY confused about any of this, are you?

Now, Petraeus could be lying, but I doubt it. I think the report was changed and this administration will do ANYTHING to make sure to smear anybody and everything contrary to their story.

It's classic. War on women? The MSM machine is gearing up for a full court press once again.
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I'm amazed at the people and media who are trying to deflect all conversation about it and, instead, are totally denying it happened or launching offensives at Republicans who are speaking out. I mean this is happening out in the open. Can you imagine what must be happening behind closed doors? And, Burma! Why Burma now?
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BobFromBucks;43877 Wrote:I'm amazed at the people and media who are trying to deflect all conversation about it and, instead, are totally denying it happened or launching offensives at Republicans who are speaking out. I mean this is happening out in the open. Can you imagine what must be happening behind closed doors? And, Burma! Why Burma now?

It's not like they have to hide anything now. They won. They feel empowered and are going to do whatever they damn well please. Screw us if we don't like it.

Everybody knows it's bullshit, but who's gonna stop them? Boehner and Co.?

Buckle up and keep preparing for that ride off the cliff . . . Hug your family every day and have a good time.

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BobFromBucks;43869 Wrote:I’m confused.

I read General Petraeus’ testimony stating that his immediate report (and the CIA’s) stated that the Benghazi massacre was an act of terrorism. He further stated he has no idea who changed the report and removed the cause as terrorism and stated that a movie caused it. He said he has no idea where Ambassador Rice got her information or why she and Hillary Clinton continued to state the same thing for several days after the attack.

Now, 97 members of Congress have sent a letter to the president stating, “Ambassador Rice is widely viewed to have either willfully or incompetently misled the American public on the Benghazi matter.” They say they will not support her nomination for Secretary of State, just in case Obama was thinking that way.

I now see where USA Today is running a story suggesting that Sen. McCain is launching a new war on women by question Rice’s actions. And, I see where Diane Feinstein, a Democrat is saying we shouldn’t blame Rice as she was only relating what the CIA told her. And, there a lot more media stories totally contradicting what Petraeus stated, as if they know what happened better than the head of the CIA. And, astoundingly, there are many, many blog posts that state this is a witch hunt by Republicans because they lost the election.

Here comes the confused part. WTF is wrong with these people, media, elected officials, etc. that they refuse to accept what Petraeus stated? He said the information was there from the get-go and someone removed it and tried to make it look like a spontaneous uprising because of a movie. There wasn't anything wishy-washy about his testimony.

I mean this seems to be black & white to me. Someone, probably Obama (or whoever "The White House" is these days) changed the report and told Susan Rice what to say. They probably promised her a plush job like Sec. of State after the election. How can the most ardent supporters of Obama be willing to totally ignore the deaths of 4 Americans, a conspiracy of lies and deceit, and the continuation of the same? And, why is main stream media willing to provide red herrings and straw men to promulgate these lies?

It just confuses me. There must be something very big that I'm missing. Shrug

Well, what Rep. Mike Rogers said on "Meet The Press" looks to me, to be the closest to establishing the information track so far.

"The intelligence community had it right, and they had it right early. What happened was it worked its way up through the system of the so-called talking points, which everyone refers to, and then it went up to what’s called a deputy’s committee...It went to the so-called deputy’s committee, that’s populated by appointees from the administration. That’s where the narrative changed. And so how that thing got back to (Susan) Rice, I think, is probably another question." http://cnsnews.com/news/article/house-in...ing-points

We appear to be getting closer to the truth. We are now at Obama's Deputies Committee. But, it is unbelievable that Obama refuses to tell us where they came up with that story. Exactly what report is it based on? Show us the document. Instead, he hides behind Rice's skirt. What a freakin' pussy.

Additionally, I want to know why not a single Rep from PA signed that letter to Obama. I just wrote my Rep, Charlie Dent. Here's the letter: http://jeffduncan.house.gov/sites/jeffdu....12%29.pdf
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/house-in...ing-points

Quote:Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), the vice chair of the Senate intelligence committee, told "Fox News Sunday" that he tried to find out who changed the talking points:

"At the hearing we had on Thursday and Friday, we had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the State Department, the FBI -- everybody there was asked, 'Do you know who made these changes?' And nobody knew. The only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the White House.

"So, you know, I don't know whether -- what they said yesterday is exactly right or not. But, what I do know is that every member of the intelligence community says that references to al Qaeda were removed by somebody, and they don't know who. And references to attacks versus demonstrations were removed by somebody."

Asked if the Senate Intelligence Committee will call Rice to testify, Chambliss said, "I don't know the answer to that question right now." He said he'll discuss it with committee chair Sen. Dianne Feinstein. He also said Rice is "going to have to come in and testify at some point, whether it's in a closed hearing or an open hearing."

At some point, Chambliss added, "She needs to come in and say what the president or the White House directed her to say."

Sen. Feinstein said she's read transcripts of every one of the five Sunday talk show interviews Susan Rice gave on Sept. 16 -- when Rice insisted the Benghazi attack was a spontaneous demonstration against a video.

Feinstein said Rice was "within the context" of the talking points put together by the intelligence community, Feinstein said. "And for this, she has been pilloried for two months."

On ABC's "This Week," House Homeland Security Chairman Peter King (R-N.Y.) said the talking points changed after they left the CIA: "[S]omewhere after it left the intelligence community, somewhere in the administration, there was very vital language taken out."

King said when the unclassified talking points were sent to the administration -- "we don't know whether it was the White House, the National Security Council, the Justice Department or the Defense Department -- that language was changed. That was not the language that was sent over by the intelligence community.

Hey, if she's the one who's responsible, then pilloried she shall be.
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I think some things are getting confused.

As I understand it, Patraeus stated that his report identified Ansar al Sharia & Al Quaeda in the Magreb as the attackers. This identification was changed (by person or persons unknown) to extremists. White House sources claim to have only changed the designation of the consulate from counsulate to "facility".

But all this is smoke and mirrors. Go back to what Obama said during the news conference about Rice and her talking points. She was sent out with that information by the White house.

THink also about what Obama said during the same news conference. He claims to have ordered that "all neccessary to save" the consulate and annex personnel be done. But nothing was done! And here are the important questions: Did he actually issue that order? And if he did in fact so order who disobeyed it?
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#8
You're only confused if you think the government is working for you.Rolleyes
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Honestly, I give up on any truth being told or allowed out by the media or any government officials. The whole administration is chock full of fraud and lies and crime, and the media is happily playing along. I sort of feel like somebody behind Obama is pulling some of these strings as well, but I can't find my tin foil hat at the moment to delve into who that might be.

I also think that the Petraeus scandal is directly related to Benghazi.... so I hope he spills everything he knows, because his reputation is already ruined anyway, so he really has nothing left to lose.
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