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Pivothead: Personal (body) surveillance
#1
Ever since Americans learned that almost all Russian drivers have dashcams because of the way insurance works over there, there's been a great interest on dashcams.

But since I don't drive to work, I don't have something similar where I can easily and clandestinely record in HD+audio when some bullshit is going on in front of me. There's been enough times where I wished I recorded something but didn't want to whip out the cell phone cam because people are too used to seeing cell phones held up in a certain way then they know immediately from the body language that they're being filmed.

So, I decided to buy and try out Pivothead shades. City shades are kinda a must if you live in the city---they're great for getting a good look at someone suspicious without attracting their attention. This tech is compact enough and trying it out nobody could notice the camera between the lenses.

I've already taken them to the gun range and got some good shots. You can change the shade lenses and put in yellow driving lenses or clear lenses if you want to use them like your safety goggles.


Here's a test I did earlier today so you can see the results. I upped it to Youtube at high resolution so be sure to set your YouTube to watch it in HD.






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I'm now gonna try using these from now on during my commutes on SEPTA. The drama tends to be in late-mornings if I go to work late and also during rush hour after I get off the train in Kensington. This will get me some good HD photos of drug dealers and prosties that hit me up when I get off the EL. Gonna be passing clips to the po-po and the transit cops; and the good stuff will go on the People of SEPTA facebook page.
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#2
Couldn't you get jammed up for recording audio? When someone whips out their cellphones to record, the expectation of privacy goes out the window. A covert device likes those seem very risky in a state like PA.Undecided
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#3
In public places everything hinges on publication:
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/pennsylv...ording-law

If you left your cell phone on recording audio in your pocket and you walked around a public place where nobody is aware what they're saying is being recorded but you never publish the recording, then no one can prove they suffered an injury in a PA courtroom. There is no criminal law against this type of recording, but plaintiffs lawyers can toss lawsuits into the Common Pleas hopper hoping to find a sympathetic judge, who will then use it to try to bankrupt you, not to mention tossing in a libel suit for good measure (even though the recording is evidence of a fact, the lawyer will still lie their asses off and claim that you're maligning their client in "bad light").

If the recording is published, plaintiff lawyers can pop up everywhere. But in order to sue someone, they have to identify who to file suit.

If the recording cannot be identified as to who published it (i.e. stripping metadata, clipping out audio where you're talking, trimming sections where your reflection is showing up on shiny objects and mirrors), then the plaintiff is stuck up shit creek without a paddle. So, publish it anonymously and leave plaintiffs lawyers on fishing expeditions.


If you don't know how to cover your tracks when publishing a recording, then you probably shouldn't engage in this sorta stuff.


I'm mostly using it in case a dangerous situation arises. Not really a journalist on a city desk looking to jump up and publish the next "Cops Gone Wild" video.
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#4
I honestly don't like the idea people could be recording me and then putting me online or giving it to cops or whatever.....although if one lives in a bad area I can see, I guess, why you would want one.
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RugerGirl;147384 Wrote:I honestly don't like the idea people could be recording me and then putting me online or giving it to cops or whatever.....although if one lives in a bad area I can see, I guess, why you would want one.


Yeah that's pretty much the deal; although bad shit happens everywhere (who knew Las Vegas wal-marts were dangerous places?). But "drama" happens more frequently where I live. It's just so much easier to take an HD still frame from a video file and TXT it directly to cops I know or the DAs that I know than it is to find a place to talk, call 9-1-1. Easy to do if you're in a car or you can run into a secure building. It's a different story when you're on your feet. Obviously though there's some situations where you just have to take the risk and call 911, put your hand on the gun grip and stand your ground. But in everyday scenarios where there's shady--it's better to be discreet and smarter than the dummies.


There's a couple individuals in mind I am going to lend the glasses out to because they're dealing with "corner boys" (parlance for dealers) that keep appearing on a friend's block that's in a less-gentrified part of my 'hood. When they're out she can walk her dog or go get a pack of Newports and pass by them very close to get very good detail of them and then TXT the cops the still shots.

We also get frequent door-to-door scammers that solicit for non-profits that either don't exist or they aren't really part of real non-profits in the neighborhood. Every summer we keep getting the same scammers popping up over and over again collecting for the neighborhood athletic club and never has the AC ever hit up people door to door for donations.

My security cameras on my house will catch a grainy video of them the next time they show up but with the city shades I'll have an HD video of them just 2 feet away where I can make out tatts and zit scars. YouTube actually destroys quite a bit of detail when I uploaded that video earlier---the raw video file has a lot more detail and you can zoom in about 4X before it gets grainy in daylight. Good enough to pick up license plates over a half block away.

Shit always happens on the train from time to time; or sometimes on the platform. This morning there was a domestic about to explode between a Puerto Rican couple--the guy moved out and was on the platform with two big garbage bags full of his stuff. His old lady was storming after him yelling and the operator couldn't get the doors on the train closed because they were busy fighting on either side of the doors. I was ready to hit record and watch it fly but they settled down after the operator got on the horn to tell them if they didn't sit the fuck down they were gonna get locked up.

The other prime spot is the 1mi walk from the station back to the compound. The first 4 blocks closest to the train is where crazy people are often located and where police coverage is often thin.



In PA criminal cases the two-party wiretap thing is thrown out the window because there's been enough prosecutions using public recordings by DA's to make what I'm doing immune. The issue is being exposed in civil cases by people claiming bullshit.

If something is not good enough for police but is good enough for WORLDSTAR, you can bet your ass nobody will figure out where the video came from and plaintiff's attorneys can suck it.
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#6
From my usage perspective...that's better than a bulky go pro camera. If it got whacked while in use it would be instantly noticed and I wouldn't have recording of the camera pointing off in some odd ball direction. Cool
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#7
I've been using the Pivotheads for all my match videos for the last several months

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#8
Those glasses also give you the ability to see aliens living among us. ...and I'm all out of bubblegum.
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bigdawgbeav;147401 Wrote:I've been using the Pivotheads for all my match videos for the last several months

At this point is it safe to say you like them more than the GoPro? The only thing I don't like from the videos I've seen is the obstructed view shooting a rifle with optics.
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csmith;147419 Wrote:
bigdawgbeav;147401 Wrote:I've been using the Pivotheads for all my match videos for the last several months

At this point is it safe to say you like them more than the GoPro? The only thing I don't like from the videos I've seen is the obstructed view shooting a rifle with optics.

GoPro is still a must for tac mounts; I don't think there's much you can do to get a POV between the eyeball and the optics that gives a good POV shot, but that's where doubling up with a GoPro set downrange to get a closeup of the target combined with a rearview POV comes in handy, with some Final Cut Pro to create the splitscreen showing both scenes side by side. It's great though for shooting dot sights--no need for a GoPro if you're not using scopes.

My parents are too old to walk around miles with me so I just cut a video and used FCP to create a 20 minute movie using the glasses along with some animated Google Earth and maps to show them how I commute to work [they're people who can't survive without a car; doing something like commuting on foot/train is a novelty]. Kinda nice to show flyover 3D maps of where I'm walking and the commute path splitscreened with the perspective from the glasses. When they look at Google Earth of Philadelphia they're confused by all the density and tiny streets. The glasses made it easy to create a video that makes them feel like they know the entire trip.

When I boarded a packed train with the glasses on not one person even notice that I was recording, or that I was wearing a cam. Pretty cool.
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