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Police Exercise Portrays “Angry Parents” As Terrorists Shooting Up School…
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cop says this has been happening all over the country for years?


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middlefinger;101311 Wrote:cop says this has been happening all over the country for years?



Angry, white, heterosexual, conservative tea party member parents I bet...
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How many angry parents have shot up schools? I'd love to hear of a single instance.
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Camper;101605 Wrote:How many angry parents have shot up schools? I'd love to hear of a single instance.

Normally it is someone with some sort of connection to the school (even if it is that they live/work near the school), but one doesn't often hear of it being a parent.

That being said, police preparing to respond to school massacres has been pretty common since Columbine. Normally some sort of scenario is devised to set the context for the training. This time they happened to pick a pissed-off parent. On the face of it, I don't think there is anything ominous or sinister with this.

Very realistic? Probably not.
Gives a set-up for an adult perpetrator of a school massacre? Yep.
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And what, pray tell, are they expecting to piss off the parents??
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Pocketprotector;101639 Wrote:And what, pray tell, are they expecting to piss off the parents??

From what I have seen, the creators of these scenarios don't normally think the scenarios through that well.
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Instead of defining the shooter to his political affiliations or shooting motives, why can't they just say a psycho guy is shooting up the school, your [the police] job is to neutralize the shooter. When a person is unloading into citizens, I doubt the first thing going through the first responders mind is "Oh, I wonder if this guy is a tea partier or an occupier?" Their motives/affiliations are not going to change how an officer responds. As for the police training to respond to active shooters in schools, malls, etc. I do not see a problem with this. I'm not a parent, but if I had a child in a school with an active shooter, I would want the responding police to be highly trained since I can't go into the school myself and neutralize the asshole.
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Philadelphia Patriot;101648 Wrote:Instead of defining the shooter to his political affiliations or shooting motives, why can't they just say a psycho guy is shooting up the school, your [the police] job is to neutralize the shooter. When a person is unloading into citizens, I doubt the first thing going through the first responders mind is "Oh, I wonder if this guy is a tea partier or an occupier?" Their motives/affiliations are not going to change how an officer responds. As for the police training to respond to active shooters in schools, malls, etc. I do not see a problem with this. I'm not a parent, but if I had a child in a school with an active shooter, I would want the responding police to be highly trained since I can't go into the school myself and neutralize the asshole.

The background of the perpetrators is very important. There is a massive difference between someone who is emotionally disturbed shooting up a school and an intentional, well planned, well executed - and supported, terrorist attack.

The people who responded to Sandy Hook or Nickle Mines faced very, very different circumstances than those that responded to Beslan. For this reason, knowing the background of the perpetrators can be very important. It can also help officers talk the person down/out if the massacre turns barricaded suspect.

If I get that call, I will want to know if it is an angry parent or Al Qaeda behind the attack. Knowing which one will change my approach and the resources I would bring to bare on the situation.
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I wonder how a "rouge cop" scenario would be viewed where I train? Dodgy
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spblademaker;102108 Wrote:I wonder how a "rouge cop" scenario would be viewed where I train? Dodgy

I guess it depends upon how many hispanic women driving grey pickups are around at the time.

In regards to "knowing the attacker", the persons responding to the scene for an active shooter situation aren't going to care who the person is, or what their motivations are. They're only goal is going to stop the shooting and rescue the victims. The motivations behind it area going only come out afterwards or if the person is still alive and holding hostages.

If they're training first responders in these scenarios what kind of different training would they have if the person is an "angry parent" or a "disgruntled employee" or a "muslim terrorist"? Is there going to be a different response based upon who the shooter is?
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