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Police shoot pet as they notify family of son's homicide
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How do you know the dog's intent? I have an Australian Shepherd that hull ass out the door barking up storm at someone she doesn't know, but that the extent of it. She sniffs and barks until they leave the property or become engaged with another family member.




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Howard Bullock;112323 Wrote:How do you know the dog's intent? I have an Australian Shepherd that hull ass out the door barking up storm at someone she doesn't know, but that the extent of it. She sniffs and barks until they leave the property or become engaged with another family member.




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People who are around dogs often can usually tell if a dog wants to bite you or is just alarming its owner about you.
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Howard Bullock;112323 Wrote:How do you know the dog's intent? I have an Australian Shepherd that hull ass out the door barking up storm at someone she doesn't know, but that the extent of it. She sniffs and barks until they leave the property or become engaged with another family member.




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I'm not waiting for the dog to latch onto me before taking action. If your dog can't control itself off leash, then don't let it off leash and charge me, and I won't shoot it.

Justin
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Philadelphia Patriot;112324 Wrote:
Howard Bullock;112323 Wrote:How do you know the dog's intent? I have an Australian Shepherd that hull ass out the door barking up storm at someone she doesn't know, but that the extent of it. She sniffs and barks until they leave the property or become engaged with another family member.




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People who are around dogs often can usually tell if a dog wants to bite you or is just alarming its owner about you.

I wonder how many people have been bitten after the the dogs owner said "my dog doesn't bite".

I know it's happened to me. Should everyone be required to take a class on doggie body language so they can be 60% sure they won't be bitten by a charging dog?
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streaker69;112326 Wrote:
Philadelphia Patriot;112324 Wrote:People who are around dogs often can usually tell if a dog wants to bite you or is just alarming its owner about you.

I wonder how many people have been bitten after the the dogs owner said "my dog doesn't bite".

I know it's happened to me. Should everyone be required to take a class on doggie body language so they can be 60% sure they won't be bitten by a charging dog?

No, not at all. Just like self defense against another human, just use good judgement. If you thing a charging dog is going to bite you, then do what you have to do.
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If someone entered my yard without me being present my dog would rush towards them too.

Of course, I'm sure it's the dog's fault--it should have recognized the badge and immediately submitted to their au-thor-i-tay.
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I can only say, that people have every right to have a dog, that is trained to attack if someone enters their property unwelcome. You could be opening yourself to liability, but you have the right to use an animal for home protection. A responsible owner who has a loose dog in an open yard though should have voice control over their animal.

Who knows if they had beware of dog signs up, or the officer had any idea that there was a dog present that could attack. The story doesn't say. Every situation would dictate the appropriate response. It just seems that there are a lot of stories about officers shooting dogs. Maybe more training would prevent dog shootings, maybe it wouldn't. A really angry pitbull might only be slightly phased by pepper spray.

This dog seems to recover pretty fast from a tase, although it does appear to have taken the fight out of him.

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LostCyborg;112340 Wrote:I can only say, that people have every right to have a dog, that is trained to attack if someone enters their property unwelcome. You could be opening yourself to liability, but you have the right to use an animal for home protection. A responsible owner who has a loose dog in an open yard though should have voice control over their animal.

Who knows if they had beware of dog signs up, or the officer had any idea that there was a dog present that could attack. The story doesn't say. Every situation would dictate the appropriate response. It just seems that there are a lot of stories about officers shooting dogs. Maybe more training would prevent dog shootings, maybe it wouldn't. A really angry pitbull might only be slightly phased by pepper spray.

This dog seems to recover pretty fast from a tase, although it does appear to have taken the fight out of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Itfr_V424

I agree, and I have every right to defend myself against a vicious dog attack.

Justin
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JustinHEMI;112342 Wrote:I agree, and I have every right to defend myself against a vicious dog attack.

If you come into my fenced in yard unannounced, and my dog rushes towards you, do you have the right to shoot it?

If you come into my car unannounced, and my dog rushes towards you, do you have the right to shoot it?

If you come into my house unannounced, and my dog rushes towards you, do you have the right to shoot it?

If you come into my bedroom unannounced, and my dog rushes towards you, do you have the right to shoot it?

Yes, I'm picking.

If you're walking down the street and a dog rushes you, shoot it until you have to reload, then shoot it again.

But when you are entering into the property of another person unannounced--and uninvited--and their dog rushes towards you and you shoot it, I believe it is a totally separate issue.

Here's an interesting twist in all of this: There are a great many in law enforcement who do not like the "Stand Your Ground" laws, or do not believe that citizens should carry guns to protect themselves because they should simply retreat. That being said, why didn't the officers retreat to the other side of the fence?
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I don't have a habit of going into people's property uninvited. I thought, incorrectly, that knowing me, you'd know what situations I was talking about.

That said, if you have a dog that charges everyone that enters your property, unannounced, then you have a huge liability on your hands if there is no warning provided. You do not have the right to have a dog attack someone merely for coming on to your property.

If your dog does that, it should be put down, imo.

Justin
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