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Poll: The presidential race is tight in Pennsylvania
#41
So your voting for Obama by not voting for Romney. That makes a lot of sense. LOLWhackWhackWhackWhack
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#42
[quote=ExcelToExcel;13262]
I'm voting! Just not for the antigun defict spending big govement libral and i wont vote for obama either. And unless some crazy shit happens pa is locked up, unless fox news is lying along with every poll I can find, that is reality. Stick your heads in the sand.. doesn't change the storm that's coming.. we all.know it, you know it the guy next door knows it, every republican knows it. We're screwed this year and the next four. Hyper exagerating the truth doesnt help our cause. It makes us look like idiots. Ignoring the facts about our own state and its screwed up voters doesnt help either. What are you going to do about the next election is the question?
Are you going to send a message that our rights are not open to compromise? That we need a balanced budget NOW and not in 30 years like Ryan wants? That we need to stop foreign aid? That we need to end the patriot and ndaa? Or are you going to pull that lever and support the RINO?
[quote=51158;13260]

You writing in or how ever you're going to vote will get us a balanced budget NOW?

First: If you try to balance the budget NOW, blood WILL run in every big city. to many people on the dole,If what you say is followed innocent people will die. I'm the first one to say it's wrong to take from me to give to someone else, but you can't change that overnight, it took 50years to get here.

Talk to anyone who diets, it's always easier putting fat on than taking it off

Second: Where will these people work, we the people wanted cheap stuff. We have reported 8.6 or higher unemployment depending on which paper you read.

This country has so many natural resources that i believe we could actually recover from this mess..I don't have much faith in any politician to have the guts to do what needs to be done, and an outsider doesn't have a chance with the slant the media has. you for instance have already decided obama won the state by what you read in the media with their polls..

With me: It ain't over till the fat lady sings




Deficit spending is actually a legitimate way of increasing the money supply, which you occasionally have to do when population increases or money leaves the pool..it's wrong in today financial system simply because there are way to many ways that money makes it into circulation..we've actually been following the Keynesian system since the 1930's. the problem is keeping politicians honest, and IMO the what gold did..
With the Second Amendment saying what it says, Why isn't the Federal Government Suing NY
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#43
IronSight;13448 Wrote:Let's say three politicians are running in an election, the votes are as follows.

Obama: 59
Romney: 58
Nader (why not Dodgy): 3

...

Gary decides to vote, doesn't know the current totals. He hates Obama & Romney, so he votes Nader.

Obama: 59
Romney: 58
Nader: 4

59-59=0
58-58=0
4-3=1

Gary didn't vote for Obama by not voting for Romney. 59 other people voted for Obama. Gary voted for Nader and no one else.

...

Now scale it nationally and you're argument is full of even more holes.

Strictly hypothetical:
Had gary,joe,bob and bubba ,the 4 nader voters voted for romney, they would've put romney over the top, yes? I don't see any holes.
With the Second Amendment saying what it says, Why isn't the Federal Government Suing NY
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#44
Lol.. the voting for a third.party is going to ruin it for everyone nonsense. I love the new math. These people's favorite number is fire truck...

Johnson is going to be on the ballot unless some radical republican nonsense gets pulled over a judges eyes.

We can balance the budget today. We must before there is a real economic explosion. Want to just print more money lay off 60% of the government employees and just print money to pay off their homes. It'll be better than not balancing the budget. Same consistent nonsense that we have now. Johnson wouldn't balance the budget right now though he'd try. Far better than tax by fee romney, who wouldn't do that ios president either. 30 years is a good joke. Want to balance the budget just fund at 2000 levels except social security/medi yes lots of.laid off government employees. So what? It has to happen in order to solve our problems at its very root. Far too much government and far too much spending. The fed is feeding plenty of money into the economy with Q1,2&3...

In reality 2 of the four would/should have voted for OBAMA if nader wasnt on the ticket, if they bothered to vote at all and obama would still win. Look up fair share and apply. Its called math..

51158;13474 Wrote:
IronSight;13448 Wrote:Let's say three politicians are running in an election, the votes are as follows.

Obama: 59
Romney: 58
Nader (why not Dodgy): 3

...

Gary decides to vote, doesn't know the current totals. He hates Obama & Romney, so he votes Nader.

Obama: 59
Romney: 58
Nader: 4

59-59=0
58-58=0
4-3=1

Gary didn't vote for Obama by not voting for Romney. 59 other people voted for Obama. Gary voted for Nader and no one else.

...

Now scale it nationally and you're argument is full of even more holes.

Strictly hypothetical:
Had gary,joe,bob and bubba ,the 4 nader voters voted for romney, they would've put romney over the top, yes? I don't see any holes.
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#45
There are plenty of polls not conducted by the media. They all say the same thing and fox isn't left leaning and saying the same thing!

Maybe a meteor will fall on OBAMA... after all it ain't over until the fat lady sings..

51158;13301 Wrote:[quote=ExcelToExcel;13262]
I'm voting! Just not for the antigun defict spending big govement libral and i wont vote for obama either. And unless some crazy shit happens pa is locked up, unless fox news is lying along with every poll I can find, that is reality. Stick your heads in the sand.. doesn't change the storm that's coming.. we all.know it, you know it the guy next door knows it, every republican knows it. We're screwed this year and the next four. Hyper exagerating the truth doesnt help our cause. It makes us look like idiots. Ignoring the facts about our own state and its screwed up voters doesnt help either. What are you going to do about the next election is the question?
Are you going to send a message that our rights are not open to compromise? That we need a balanced budget NOW and not in 30 years like Ryan wants? That we need to stop foreign aid? That we need to end the patriot and ndaa? Or are you going to pull that lever and support the RINO?
[quote=51158;13260]

You writing in or how ever you're going to vote will get us a balanced budget NOW?

First: If you try to balance the budget NOW, blood WILL run in every big city. to many people on the dole,If what you say is followed innocent people will die. I'm the first one to say it's wrong to take from me to give to someone else, but you can't change that overnight, it took 50years to get here.

Talk to anyone who diets, it's always easier putting fat on than taking it off

Second: Where will these people work, we the people wanted cheap stuff. We have reported 8.6 or higher unemployment depending on which paper you read.

This country has so many natural resources that i believe we could actually recover from this mess..I don't have much faith in any politician to have the guts to do what needs to be done, and an outsider doesn't have a chance with the slant the media has. you for instance have already decided obama won the state by what you read in the media with their polls..

With me: It ain't over till the fat lady sings




Deficit spending is actually a legitimate way of increasing the money supply, which you occasionally have to do when population increases or money leaves the pool..it's wrong in today financial system simply because there are way to many ways that money makes it into circulation..we've actually been following the Keynesian system since the 1930's. the problem is keeping politicians honest, and IMO the what gold did..
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#46
IronSight;13482 Wrote:
51158;13474 Wrote:Strictly hypothetical:
Had gary,joe,bob and bubba ,the 4 nader voters voted for romney, they would've put romney over the top, yes? I don't see any holes.

But they didn't vote for Romney and they didn't vote for Obama. Their votes therefore, in no manner, decided the election one way or the other.

It did decide the election. Those 4% of votes in any other place would have changed the outcome.
"As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God, protect my sweet ride."
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#47
No it wouldn't have. Its called math and knowing how the process works. It isn't a zero sum game because people don't have to vote and unlike some idiots a good amount of us refuse to vote for a flaming liberal rather or not there is an ® or (D) after their names.
ByblosHex;13547 Wrote:
IronSight;13482 Wrote:But they didn't vote for Romney and they didn't vote for Obama. Their votes therefore, in no manner, decided the election one way or the other.

It did decide the election. Those 4% of votes in any other place would have changed the outcome.
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#48
Mother fuckin' bingo...

IronSight;13558 Wrote:
ByblosHex;13547 Wrote:It did decide the election. Those 4% of votes in any other place would have changed the outcome.

My neighbors argued over cooking hot dogs or turkey-burgers on the same grill. They put it to a vote, but I was sick of the fact that this happened every single time the community got together for a cookout. Noticing I had not voted they looked to me, saying, "you decide".

Instead of voting for either, as I am a fan of neither, I yell out a vote for sausages despite the fact that no one else wants that at all. I walk away, I'll have my sausages on my own.

I find out the next day the turkey-burger vote had lost by one, but that crowd blames me for their failure to offer up good food to vote for. They say I decided their election. According to the turkey-burgers the sausage, not the hot dog, is to blame for letting the hot dogs rule the day.
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#49
ExcelToExcel;13549 Wrote:No it wouldn't have. Its called math and knowing how the process works. It isn't a zero sum game because people don't have to vote and unlike some idiots a good amount of us refuse to vote for a flaming liberal rather or not there is an ® or (D) after their names.
ByblosHex;13547 Wrote:It did decide the election. Those 4% of votes in any other place would have changed the outcome.
so much for educated, reverting to name calling only shows your ignorance on the statistics you use for your argument..

I'm no college guy, but I understand statistics and how they work. your're leaving one thing out though. the human factor and all things being equal, the math you are using I would compare too drawing straws.

This is more in line with reality. IMO
With the Second Amendment saying what it says, Why isn't the Federal Government Suing NY
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#50
Please point to whom I called a name... please.

Are you saying you'll vote for a flaming liberal? I mean if you're a liberal that's fine to me but I won't vote for them.

the math is simple. In voting there is always one same choice, none. Many many people choose that one every election.
51158;13598 Wrote:
ExcelToExcel;13549 Wrote:No it wouldn't have. Its called math and knowing how the process works. It isn't a zero sum game because people don't have to vote and unlike some idiots a good amount of us refuse to vote for a flaming liberal rather or not there is an ® or (D) after their names.
so much for educated, reverting to name calling only shows your ignorance on the statistics you use for your argument..

I'm no college guy, but I understand statistics and how they work. your're leaving one thing out though. the human factor and all things being equal, the math you are using I would compare too drawing straws.

This is more in line with reality. IMO
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