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Probably one of the scariest things I have read recently!!
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There's one standout dictator that comes to my mind and his experience as an iron fist authoritarian that convinces me presidential term limits must stay in place forever: Saddam Hussein. He was democratically elected for repeat terms as president with 99.9 percent of the vote in 2 show elections.

But that happened in Iraq...it couldn't ever happen here even in the unlikely event presidential term limits were dropped Rolleyes
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#12
Don't forget about FDR's 3 terms.

George Washington best summed it up by saying the country should be ran by the people, and not by one man.
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bac0nfat;127243 Wrote:
Dave;127236 Wrote:actually dictatorship starts when those in power can not be removed by the will of the people.

All can be voted out of office. Its really not the systems fault that nobody does it.

Not really, not with all the voter fraud that goes on. Term limits are the only thing protecting us.

Also, to remove presidential term limits, you would need a new Constitutional amendment, which would require getting through congress and being ratified by 2/3 of the states. That would never happen, and even if it did, Obama would be out of office by then.

Yeah, but if it happened, then Obama could come back.
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RugerGirl;127247 Wrote:
bac0nfat;127243 Wrote:Not really, not with all the voter fraud that goes on. Term limits are the only thing protecting us.

Also, to remove presidential term limits, you would need a new Constitutional amendment, which would require getting through congress and being ratified by 2/3 of the states. That would never happen, and even if it did, Obama would be out of office by then.

Yeah, but if it happened, then Obama could come back.

People are all ready allowed to run for 2 terms, sit out the next 4 years, and then be elected president again.

Edit: Never mind, the 22nd Amendment specifically forbids this...link
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Philadelphia Patriot;127246 Wrote:Don't forget about FDR's 3 terms.

I believe FDR's three terms was the reason for the 22nd.
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RugerGirl;127229 Wrote:Dems love to change the rules like a teenager playing Monopoly. If they changed term limits and somehow a conservative got in, they'd just rescind the new law. Although I guess they would just make sure the conservative never got in.....
Wasn't it the Republican who changed the rules after FDR served 3 terms? I find that both parties like to change the rules to suit themselves in the moment. Demonizing either side is really a useless action - limit them all to eliminate power plays.
ExcelToExcel;127232 Wrote:
soberbyker;127231 Wrote:I disagree with it, and I think the Senate and House should have term limits. Unlimited terms is how dictatorship starts. I think 8 years is plenty of time to either ruin or turn around the country.

I'd agree but I disagree with the hypocrisy that congress pushed the amendment to the constitution but yet didn't impose it on themselves. Until it is on congress it does I no good.

I think there should be term limits for all elected offices.
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I'm not saying that there MAY not be the need for this evil based on human nature but there is also the tyranny about not being allowed to vote for somebody I really like just because he has been in office X years.

Honestly I'm 49/51 on the issue.

About voter fraud, yeah I know some happens but I still feel we have the way cleanest elections compared to anybody else - including us just 50 years ago.
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Dave;127254 Wrote:I'm not saying that there MAY not be the need for this evil based on human nature but there is also the tyranny about not being allowed to vote for somebody I really like just because he has been in office X years.

Honestly I'm 49/51 on the issue.

About voter fraud, yeah I know some happens but I still feel we have the way cleanest elections compared to anybody else - including us just 50 years ago.


When I think of a clean election, I don't think about voting, but also the entire manipulated, specially funded process.

I have very little faith that good candidates are even able to get on the ballot, before one vote is even counted (or faked).
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#19
If you haven't already I recommend The Liberty Amendments by Mark Levin.

I agree with damn near every one, but here is what he wrote about an Amendment on term limits for Congress and Supreme Court:

Quote:AN AMENDMENT TO ESTABLISH TERM LIMITS FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS

SECTION 1: No person may serve more than twelve years as a member of Congress, whether such service is exclusively in the House or the Senate or combined in both Houses.

SECTION 2: Upon ratification of this Article, any incumbent member of Congress whose term exceeds the twelve-year limit shall complete the current term, but thereafter shall be ineligible for further service as a member of Congress.

Quote:AN AMENDMENT TO ESTABLISH TERM LIMITS FOR SUPREME COURT JUSTICES AND SUPER-MAJORITY LEGISLATIVE OVERRIDE

SECTION 1: No person may serve as Chief Justice or Associate Justice of the Supreme Court for more than a combined total of twelve years.

SECTION 2: Immediately upon ratification of this Amendment, Congress will organize the justices of the Supreme Court as equally as possible into three classes, with the justices assigned to each class in reverse seniority order, with the most senior justices in the earliest classes. The terms of office for the justices in the First Class will expire at the end of the fourth Year following the ratification of this Amendment, the terms for the justices of the Second Class will expire at the end of theeighth Year, and of the Third Class at the end of the twelfth Year, so that one-third of the justices may be chosen every fourth Year.

SECTION 3: When a vacancy occurs in the Supreme Court, the President shall nominate a new justice who, with the approval of a majority of the Senate, shall serve the remainder of the unexpired term. Justices who fill a vacancy for longer than half of an unexpired term may not be renominated to a full term.

SECTION 4: Upon three-fifths vote of the House of Representatives and the Senate, Congress may override a majority opinion rendered by the Supreme Court.

SECTION 5: The Congressional override under Section 4 is not subject to a Presidential veto and shall not be the subject of litigation or review in any Federal or State court.

SECTION 6: Upon three-fifths vote of the several state legislatures, the States may override a majority opinion rendered by the Supreme Court.

SECTION 7: The States’ override under Section 6 shall not be the subject of litigation or review in any Federal or State court, or oversight or interference by Congress or the President.

SECTION 8: Congressional or State override States

Levin, Mark R. (2013-08-13). The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic (p. 50). Threshold Editions. Kindle Edition.
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#20
Whoa. Dont like that amendment at all. 3/5ths is bullshit. Greater than 3/4 for congress or 2/3rds for state override..
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