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PSP Database? Pocono Township standoff with armed man ends peacefully
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Quote:Pocono Township standoff with armed man ends peacefully

February 13, 2014

A domestic dispute involving an armed Pocono Township man led to a one-hour standoff with police Wednesday morning.

Louis Sosa, 47, of Moonlight Drive in Pocono Highlands, got into an argument with his wife, threatening to hurt her and himself, and telling her he would not go quietly, according to Pocono Township Police Chief Kent Werkheiser.

"He may have meant suicide by cop," Werkheiser said

Sosa's wife was able to flee the home at about 7:40 a.m. and call 911. She told a dispatcher her husband was armed with a semi-automatic handgun. Two children, a son and daughter, and two of their friends remained in the house.

Township police created a perimeter around the house, closing streets and alerting neighbors to stay in their homes. Werkheiser called for the state police regional SWAT team and had an emergency mobile headquarters alerted in case the standoff lasted and his officers needed to be rotated out of the cold.

He also notified Pocono Mountain School District of the standoff. Police confirmed Sosa had at least one weapon in the home.

"I ran checks, and the gun came up, and it was exactly as she described," the chief said.

Sosa wouldn't pick up the phone when police tried contacting him.

"Then we found out there were four other people in the house," Werkheiser said. "We were able to make contact with the daughter through text messaging."

All of the children were young adults.

Werkheiser told the daughter that the best thing to do was have everyone come out of the house. She told him the four were staying to try and convince her father to surrender.

Shortly after the text contacts, Sosa exited the home unarmed and surrendered to police without incident.

He left the gun behind on the kitchen table.

Initially, Werkheiser treated the scene as a barricaded person with hostages. It was only through the text messaging that he learned the children and their friends decided to stay to reason with Sosa.

Werkheiser credited the dispatchers at the emergency control center as unsung heroes.

"They were anticipating what I was going to need and the questions I was going to ask. And they provided it to me at the scene and gave it to us fast," he said.

Station Commander Lt. Douglas Shook of the state police in Swiftwater mobilized the SWAT team and Central Pocono ambulance was put on standby.

"You plan for the worst and hope for the best. I couldn't be more proud of our guys," he said, also crediting Sosa's children for resolving the standoff peacefully. "They helped convince him to give up."

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../402130319

Ran checks against what? The illegal PSP database that doesn't exist.
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Tootie;134754 Wrote:
Quote:Pocono Township standoff with armed man ends peacefully

February 13, 2014

A domestic dispute involving an armed Pocono Township man led to a one-hour standoff with police Wednesday morning.

Louis Sosa, 47, of Moonlight Drive in Pocono Highlands, got into an argument with his wife, threatening to hurt her and himself, and telling her he would not go quietly, according to Pocono Township Police Chief Kent Werkheiser.

"He may have meant suicide by cop," Werkheiser said

Sosa's wife was able to flee the home at about 7:40 a.m. and call 911. She told a dispatcher her husband was armed with a semi-automatic handgun. Two children, a son and daughter, and two of their friends remained in the house.

Township police created a perimeter around the house, closing streets and alerting neighbors to stay in their homes. Werkheiser called for the state police regional SWAT team and had an emergency mobile headquarters alerted in case the standoff lasted and his officers needed to be rotated out of the cold.

He also notified Pocono Mountain School District of the standoff. Police confirmed Sosa had at least one weapon in the home.

"I ran checks, and the gun came up, and it was exactly as she described," the chief said.

Sosa wouldn't pick up the phone when police tried contacting him.

"Then we found out there were four other people in the house," Werkheiser said. "We were able to make contact with the daughter through text messaging."

All of the children were young adults.

Werkheiser told the daughter that the best thing to do was have everyone come out of the house. She told him the four were staying to try and convince her father to surrender.

Shortly after the text contacts, Sosa exited the home unarmed and surrendered to police without incident.

He left the gun behind on the kitchen table.

Initially, Werkheiser treated the scene as a barricaded person with hostages. It was only through the text messaging that he learned the children and their friends decided to stay to reason with Sosa.

Werkheiser credited the dispatchers at the emergency control center as unsung heroes.

"They were anticipating what I was going to need and the questions I was going to ask. And they provided it to me at the scene and gave it to us fast," he said.

Station Commander Lt. Douglas Shook of the state police in Swiftwater mobilized the SWAT team and Central Pocono ambulance was put on standby.

"You plan for the worst and hope for the best. I couldn't be more proud of our guys," he said, also crediting Sosa's children for resolving the standoff peacefully. "They helped convince him to give up."

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../402130319

Ran checks against what? The illegal PSP database that doesn't exist.

Yes.

you know, to make sure it wasnt stolen.
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Tootie;134754 Wrote:He also notified Pocono Mountain School District of the standoff.

WTF? Was the school across the street or something?


Tootie;134754 Wrote:"I ran checks, and the gun came up, and it was exactly as she described," the chief said.

Pretty soon they'll have a database to tell them what kind of bullets he has too.Dodgy
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P89;134756 Wrote:
Tootie;134754 Wrote:He also notified Pocono Mountain School District of the standoff.

WTF? Was the school across the street or something?


Tootie;134754 Wrote:"I ran checks, and the gun came up, and it was exactly as she described," the chief said.

Pretty soon they'll have a database to tell them what kind of bullets he has too.Dodgy

Pocono Highland Estates is in Henryville a few miles down the road from the PM East Campus. Knee jerk over-reaction like every other 'it's time to scare the sheeple' event.
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Well, despite all the not-a-database bullshittery, and the let's-make-sure-everyone-panics faggotry, no one died, or was even injured, so I guess this article is actually good news.
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http://www.pafoa.org/law#faq-do-i-have-t...er-my-guns

If you click on the "do I have to register my guns" link, it says they do keep a database.
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I can't really fault the cop for using all the tools at his disposal to end a standoff. The messed up part is that its a tool that he shouldn't have. At least the house wasn't rammed w/ a surplus MRAP or set on fire.

BTW Have there ever been any serious legal challenges to the PSP sales database? It's clearly used as a registry by the police.
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P89;134756 Wrote:
Tootie;134754 Wrote:He also notified Pocono Mountain School District of the standoff.

WTF? Was the school across the street or something?


Tootie;134754 Wrote:"I ran checks, and the gun came up, and it was exactly as she described," the chief said.

Pretty soon they'll have a database to tell them what kind of bullets he has too.Dodgy
Unfortunately that is already the case in NY.

Rik Bitter;134775 Wrote:I can't really fault the cop for using all the tools at his disposal to end a standoff. The messed up part is that its a tool that he shouldn't have. At least the house wasn't rammed w/ a surplus MRAP or set on fire.

BTW Have there ever been any serious legal challenges to the PSP sales database? It's clearly used as a registry by the police.

Not that I am aware of. I think this is due to nothing concrete (except for recently) from the PSP or other law enforcement that the date exists, is maintained contrary to the UFA, and is used for purposes outside the UFA.
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rmagill;134831 Wrote:
P89;134756 Wrote:WTF? Was the school across the street or something?



Pretty soon they'll have a database to tell them what kind of bullets he has too.Dodgy
Unfortunately that is already the case in NY.

Rik Bitter;134775 Wrote:I can't really fault the cop for using all the tools at his disposal to end a standoff. The messed up part is that its a tool that he shouldn't have. At least the house wasn't rammed w/ a surplus MRAP or set on fire.

BTW Have there ever been any serious legal challenges to the PSP sales database? It's clearly used as a registry by the police.

Not that I am aware of. I think this is due to nothing concrete (except for recently) from the PSP or other law enforcement that the date exists, is maintained contrary to the UFA, and is used for purposes outside the UFA.

The PA Supreme Court ruled that it is lawful because it's a record of sale database and not a registry. The reason they ruled it isn't a database is because there is no requirement to register handguns that aren't in it.
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The DOJ sent a letter to PA years ago stating they are in violation of the law because they retain sales record longer than the time permitted under federal law... They didn't give a shit..
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