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Question about designing a target
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Hey guys, my friends and I are developing a target and I want to get some input from the gun community.

So my question is in regards to a typical silhouette target. You essentially have two targets in one: a "head" target, and a "body" target. Let's assume, for now, there there are only these two zones. There are no additional smaller spots inside the body that grant additional points. The body portion is ONE zone and will grant the same amount of points no matter if you hit directly in the center, or right on the edge.

So...how do you guys feel about "neck shots?" Should the "head" be placed slightly above the body, with a small space between the head and body that will be considered a miss? Or should the head be directly touching the body, and any shots that fall directly on the line will count as body shots?

So to recap, we have two options:

A: Neck shots don't count, and there is a space between the head and the body.

B. The head "zone" will be touching the body, and any shots that fall directly on the line between will be counted as body shots.

ETA:
This particular target is NOT designed for accuracy, it is designed for quick, reactive shooting. Or "point" shooting, or "instinctive" shooting, or whatever you wanna call it. The kind of shooting that you would see at a subgun match. Fast, fast, fast.
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#2
On the "basic" silhouette target those two zones are to teach you to aim for the largest areas of mass that will case the most damage in a self defense situation, IIRC.

For accuracy shooting you can design a target anyway you want.
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soberbyker;45702 Wrote: On the "basic" silhouette target those two zones are to teach you to aim for the largest areas of mass that will case the most damage in a self defense situation, IIRC.

For accuracy shooting you can design a target anyway you want.

This particular target is NOT designed for accuracy, it is designed for quick, reactive shooting. Or "point" shooting, or "instinctive" shooting, or whatever you wanna call it. The kind of shooting that you would see at a subgun match. Fast, fast, fast.

I'll update the OP with this info.
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bac0nfat;45704 Wrote:
soberbyker;45702 Wrote: On the "basic" silhouette target those two zones are to teach you to aim for the largest areas of mass that will case the most damage in a self defense situation, IIRC.

For accuracy shooting you can design a target anyway you want.

This particular target is NOT designed for accuracy, it is designed for quick, reactive shooting. Or "point" shooting, or "instinctive" shooting, or whatever you wanna call it. The kind of shooting that you would see at a subgun match. Fast, fast, fast.

I'll update the OP with this info.

Gotcha, I was mainly addressing why the first target you described has the neck area not marked. It's to get you to instinctually shoot for the largest areas of the body that will cause the most damage, for self defense.
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soberbyker;45706 Wrote:
bac0nfat;45704 Wrote:This particular target is NOT designed for accuracy, it is designed for quick, reactive shooting. Or "point" shooting, or "instinctive" shooting, or whatever you wanna call it. The kind of shooting that you would see at a subgun match. Fast, fast, fast.

I'll update the OP with this info.

Gotcha, I was mainly addressing why the first target you described has the neck area not marked. It's to get you to instinctually shoot for the largest areas of the body that will cause the most damage, for self defense.

So from what you are saying, it sounds like you would go with option A?
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bac0nfat;45709 Wrote:So from what you are saying, it sounds like you would go with option A?

In a general sense yes.

For competition and toning accuracy I would add smaller "point areas" but for overall fast self defense shooting I'd go with A. You shoot to stop the target not wound.
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#7
I was taught to generally aim between the collar bones, that way low or high you are in a good kill zone from the sternum up to the top of the head. Going with that I voted B.
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#8
I would say B, but I went with C(?). I've seen a few newer targets that also have a 3rd zone, one that includes the groin. A shattered pelvic bone pretty much makes it impossible to move, much less stand. And even if you only hit "flesh" in that zone it would sure as hell cause your target concern.
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If you have ever seen anyone shot in the neck, you know those shots count! Count the neck as a hit...
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Daycrawler;45876 Wrote:If you have ever seen anyone shot in the neck, you know those shots count! Count the neck as a hit...

Hell, in real life any hit counts, but for training to instinctually hit a target fast you want to "aim" for the larger mass areas. The A targets are designed just for that purpose, we're not talking about finesse shooting here.
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