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Questioned by Clifton Heighs pd because I was oc.
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As I walked down to my local butchers shop a knucklehead driving buy leaned out his window, while still moving and yelled out to me "fix your shirt". A few minutes later two cops came into the shop and asked I they could talk to me.

I went out and said "you have got to be kidding". One of them said no we aren't. I noticed another cop was outside. Long story short, they did not understand the law, my gun was removed from its holster and I am going to follow up with the Chief of Poilce in my little borough.

It was obvious one of the cops, the one who most resembled a jbt, knew almost nothing about oc or cc. I kept getting the crap about common sence and it scares others, this ain't the wild west etc... I let them know I will continue to oc and I really don't care abot the feeling of the sheep.

I explained that the cops have no duty to protect me so I will protect myself. I questioned the fact that the police had to respond to all 911 calls and actually make contact with someone, I also pointe dout that they have no duty to protect me or my family. The jbt answered that they won,t answer any 911 calls from me. I let him know that would be fine, I would probably never call 911 anyway and if I did they would be too late anyway. The police usualy arive after the fact. When I pointed out the whole no duty to protect thing he said well then I should just go home for the day. I said fine then you would not be out bothering the innocent. (Not sure if he cought that remark as he was turning to leave).

What bothers me the most (besides being dissarmed) is the argument that I would not have the problem if I would just cover up. to that I say eat a whole bag of assorted flavors and leave me alone.

(This has been posted elsewhere also).
You have a right to protect yourself and a duty to protect your family.
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#2
Wow. Confusedhaking my head:

I guess that required training is right the window for this force. Good luck with the Chief, let us know how that goes.
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”

William Pitt
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#3
It goes with the territory when you OC that sometimes you're going to get rousted by the cops.

Honestly, I think some OCer's do it for that very reason.

So in that sense, you did "bring it on yourself."
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#4
Valorius;58192 Wrote:It goes with the territory when you OC that sometimes you're going to get rousted by the cops.

Honestly, I think some OCer's do it for that very reason.

So in that sense, you did "bring it on yourself."

That is your opinion. My opinion is you are wrong. I do expect to be hassled but that dosen't make it acceptable. I am willing to deal with it.

I also believe that people who say things like that and profess to be in support of the 2nd ammendment are a part of the problem. You might not be under their boot but if you look up I am sure you can see their heel.
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#5
"Son, there are the way things should be, and there is the way things are..."

(can't remember the movie the quote is from)
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#6
Valorius;58210 Wrote:"Son, there are the way things should be, and there is the way things are..."

(can't remember the movie the quote is from)

and there are those who would change that.

We ain't gonna see eye to eye on this. We are both staunch in how we feel on this issue so any further back and forth isn't gonna help.
You have a right to protect yourself and a duty to protect your family.
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#7
Thanks for OCing. I look forward to your follow up.
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#8
Seems like you handled it well. Thank you for standing up for our rights, and please keep us posted about how things go (unless there will be a pending lawsuit, at which point shut up and stop posting Wink)
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#9
I OC all the time and the only people that ever gave me crap were the jackoffs I worked with. They were all from NJ and carried in PA with Utah permits. They kept saying I was going to be hassled by cops. I've been OCing for three years and haven't had a single cop say anything negative to me. The one time I was stopped was when I was checking the mail. I had my Maltese with me and the cop rolls up and asks "is that a gun?" I looked him right in the eye and said "no sir it's a dog." He chuckled, waved and pulled away.
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Warpt762x39;58464 Wrote:I OC all the time and the only people that ever gave me crap were the jackoffs I worked with. They were all from NJ and carried in PA with Utah permits. They kept saying I was going to be hassled by cops. I've been OCing for three years and haven't had a single cop say anything negative to me. The one time I was stopped was when I was checking the mail. I had my Maltese with me and the cop rolls up and asks "is that a gun?" I looked him right in the eye and said "no sir it's a dog." He chuckled, waved and pulled away.

The huge difference in overall attitude between Northampton County and Delaware County (being so close to Philly) about guns could very well be the reason for that.
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