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Racism. Sigh.
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Jon Doe;139384 Wrote:
Quote:In return, the "black community" calked for a boycott of his athletic products, because he "doesn't identify with the struggle of our people, because he is from a different country".

Hall of Fame running black Jim Brown is quoted above from the article and needs to do his research first. Kobe Bryant was born in Philadelphia, PA and went to Lower Merion high school in Ardmore, PA. He's not from a different country. He's an American born in America. Brown is an idiot.

He was born in Philly, but lived in Italy from 6 yrs old to 14. Pretty informative years, a lot different than growing up in Philly. Then to Lower Merion, a far cry from Philly as well. So in reality, he really didn't grow up in a black community in the USA.
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soberbyker;139403 Wrote:
Jon Doe;139384 Wrote:Hall of Fame running black Jim Brown is quoted above from the article and needs to do his research first. Kobe Bryant was born in Philadelphia, PA and went to Lower Merion high school in Ardmore, PA. He's not from a different country. He's an American born in America. Brown is an idiot.

He was born in Philly, but lived in Italy from 6 yrs old to 14. Pretty informative years, a lot different than growing up in Philly. Then to Lower Merion, a far cry from Philly as well. So in reality, he really didn't grow up in a black community in the USA.


Yeah, but isn't black, black? So, they are saying being an American black is the height of human struggle?
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RugerGirl;139407 Wrote:Yeah, but isn't black, black? So, they are saying being an American black is the height of human struggle?

I'm sure there are a few black people in Uganda that might argue that.
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In my experience, being an African American is both an ethnic and cultural category.

It denotes African-Amercans, typically thought of has having black skin. However I do know of several Caucasian African-Americans (Caucasian Americans born in Africa).

It can also be a cultural category, hence "not being black enough". I have seen African Americans accuse other African Americans of being racist because the later was enforcing the law against the former. In this instance, it had nothing to do with ethnicity and everything to do with color.

Frankly, discrimination is all around. I have lost count of how many times I was told I couldn't do something or "wouldn't understand" because I am a Caucasian male. It gets old after a while.

Unfortunately this will continue across the board until we all as humans view each other with a basic level of dignity and respect simply for being human and then make individual judgments about people and not that person's ethnicity or culture.
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spblademaker;139409 Wrote:
RugerGirl;139407 Wrote:Yeah, but isn't black, black? So, they are saying being an American black is the height of human struggle?

I'm sure there are a few black people in Uganda that might argue that.

The problem is, this is a matter of perspective. For many, being a Native American in America sucks right now.

Being Syrian in Syria really sucks right now.

Being Ukranian isn't the greatest now, either.

During WW2, being Asian in America sucked.

No, in some ways it isn't easy being African American in America. However, now there are may opportunities one can take - if one is determined enough - that race is not as much a stigma for African Americans as it once was. Unfortunately, I have seen many African-Americans take on the persecuted victim role unjustly and, in the process, plant the seeds in racism against themselves in others. To be fair, I imagine that every ethnicity has done this, though.
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I personally feel that, at least in my own personal circles, whites are trying to get past racism....but that blacks in particular seem bent on keeping it alive. I have seen evidence of this in my own experience....
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RugerGirl;139407 Wrote:
soberbyker;139403 Wrote: He was born in Philly, but lived in Italy from 6 yrs old to 14. Pretty informative years, a lot different than growing up in Philly. Then to Lower Merion, a far cry from Philly as well. So in reality, he really didn't grow up in a black community in the USA.


Yeah, but isn't black, black? So, they are saying being an American black is the height of human struggle?

Apparently not. I've heard a few black guys I work with say that they have prejudices against other blacks that are darker than they are. Some have prejudices toward blacks from other parts of the world. If you look for it you can find prejudices anywhere, among any people, toward any people.

My reply was to John Doe who said Kobe was born in Philly, while he was born there he didn't live there for 8 years, he lived in another country, Italy. The people John quoted who said Kobe is from another country are correct for that time frame. I've never been to Italy, but it's probably a good bet growing up there wasn't like a black kid growing up in Philly, NYC or some other large urban area in America. When he came back to the USA he lived in Lower Merion, a fairly well to do area, again, not a ghetto. I don't find it hard to believe that blacks raised here wouldn't accept him.
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soberbyker;139427 Wrote:I've never been to Italy, but it's probably a good bet growing up there wasn't like a black kid growing up in Philly, NYC or some other large urban area in America. When he came back to the USA he lived in Lower Merion, a fairly well to do area, again, not a ghetto. I don't find it hard to believe that blacks raised here wouldn't accept him.[/font][/size][/color]

Misery loves company, I guess.

Oddly enough, white people living paycheck to paycheck (or worse) in America seem to still love white Hollywood stars, white ball players, and even the Dutchess Kate, who didn't grow up in America...

I guess it's like life is a gang...and if you don't identify with the gang in all points, skin color being only one of those points, then you ain't in the gang.

*shrug*
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RugerGirl;139407 Wrote:Yeah, but isn't black, black?

WTH? And if white is white does not mean I have to go along with all the BS spewed by other whites? Huh
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Dave;139436 Wrote:
RugerGirl;139407 Wrote:Yeah, but isn't black, black?

WTH? And if white is white does not mean I have to go along with all the BS spewed by other whites? Huh

Yeah but when you don't agree with other white crap, "whiteness" isn't the issue.

But black people claim to favor other blacks....until they go conservative.....then they aren't black anymore.
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