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Rand Paul Is Filing a Class-Action Lawsuit Against the NSA
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Quote:Rand Paul Is Filing a Class-Action Lawsuit Against the NSA

He's been threatening to do it for months, but it looks like Rand Paul is finally ready to sue the Obama administration for the NSA's mass surveillance programs.

Paul will announce on Fox News Friday evening that he plans to file a class-action lawsuit against Barack Obama and National Intelligence Director James Clapper over the NSA's bulk metadata collection, making good on his promise to take the president to court over revelations of the spy agency's expansive domestic snooping. Although no court documents have been filed in the case yet, Paul's advisers told Daily Intelligencer that the Senator's legal team is currently drafting a complaint claiming that the searches violate Americans' Fourth Amendment rights, and plans to file the suit "soon," likely in D.C. District Court.

It's a brazen move by Paul, a likely 2016 presidential contender who delights in antagonizing national security hawks in the Chris Christie wing of the GOP. Although Senate rules prohibit Paul from using his title in the suit, the Kentucky Republican will act as the lead plaintiff in the case against the spy agency, representing between 250,000 and 300,000 peope who voluntarily signed on to the class-action suit via his Paul's RANDPAC website.

Paul will also be getting an assist from Ken Cuccinelli, the failed 2013 Virginia GOP gubernatorial candidate who will be out of his job as state attorney general next week. Sources say that Cuccinelli plans to join Paul's team as a legal advisor for the NSA suit, reprising his role as the Tea Party's most litigious firebrand.

So far though, the details of Paul's lawsuit are murky. A legal counsel for Paul told Daily Intelligencer Friday that he expects the case will be similar to another NSA suit filed by birther provocateur Larry Klayman. U.S. District Judge Richard Leon agreed with Klayman's arguments last month, ruling that the NSA's metadata collection violates the Fourth Amendment. The Paul advisor said that lawyers are now studying Leon's ruling to formulate arguments for their class-action case.

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Unless the media backs him in this, they will brand him a loon like his father and any political sights he sets beyond his current office will take him nowhere, and he'd be lucky to keep the seat he already has.
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Camper;130524 Wrote:Unless the media backs him in this, they will brand him a loon like his father and any political sights he sets beyond his current office will take him nowhere, and he'd be lucky to keep the seat he already has.

...So you don't agree with the suit? Shrug
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Lets see if he follows through.
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Unfortunately, now he's calling for Snowden (who started the snowball against the NSA in the first place) to share a jail cell with Clapper.

Seems mildly inconsistent.
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mikey;130553 Wrote:
Camper;130524 Wrote:Unless the media backs him in this, they will brand him a loon like his father and any political sights he sets beyond his current office will take him nowhere, and he'd be lucky to keep the seat he already has.

...So you don't agree with the suit? Shrug

I do agree with the suit, and I agreed completely with Ron Paul wanting to audit the fed. But none of that matters, when you consider that it is the media in this country which dictates policy and what the government can and can not do.

That's why I said if the media isn't supporting Rand Paul, then they will work to paint him as a lunatic in order to steer people towards the Democratic party which is perfectly fine with NSA doing what they do, because it's their people in charge.

For the media, love for Obama knows no limit, so even if they HATED the NSA program they would have to choose--protecting Obama from a Republican, or letting a Republican make their chosen one look bad.
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MrPeanut;130594 Wrote:Lets see if he follows through.

Exactly or is it just going to be another stunt.
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pinhead1979;130658 Wrote:Unfortunately, now he's calling for Snowden (who started the snowball against the NSA in the first place) to share a jail cell with Clapper.

Seems mildly inconsistent.

Rand knows realistically Snowden will have to face some kind of consequence for his actions. He doesn't want the guy to get the death penalty or life in prison.

via ABC News
Quote:“I don’t think Edward Snowden deserves the death penalty or life in prison, I think that’s inappropriate, and I think that’s why he fled, because that’s what he faced,” Paul told George Stephanopoulos on “This Week” Sunday. “Do I think that it’s okay to leak secrets and give up national secrets and things that could endanger lives? I don’t think that’s okay either, but I think the courts are now saying that what he revealed was something the government was doing was illegal.”

Paul compared Snowden’s law-breaking to the controversial testimony of Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who previously testified before Congress that the NSA did not collect data from American citizens intentionally.

“I don’t think we can selectively apply the law. So James Clapper did break the law and there is a prison sentence for that. So did Edward Snowden,” Paul said.

“So I think personally he probably would come home for some penalty of a few years in prison which would be probably not unlike what James Clapper probably deserves for lying to Congress, and that maybe if they served in a prison cell together, we’d become further enlightened as a country over what we should and shouldn’t do,” Paul added.
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Snowden just needs to wait for another president (or two) and a complete turnover of NSA and CIA senior staff (their career lifespans are fairly short... 5-10 years).

By then the Justice Department will have also turned over several times and then nobody will give a shit. He can move to a more hospitable country where English is widespread, like Canada.



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ArcticSplash;130698 Wrote:Snowden just needs to wait for another president (or two) and a complete turnover of NSA and CIA senior staff (their career lifespans are fairly short... 5-10 years).

By then the Justice Department will have also turned over several times and then nobody will give a shit. He can move to a more hospitable country where English is widespread, like Canada.

We forgave Rick James for what he did and took him back.

Not sure if you ever met any of them but the ones I know would never forget and would not even consider forgiveness. I could see where they made some sort of deal to get back what else he stole but even that would be a hard sell.
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