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Recommend for me .223 rounds for deer
#1
I'm seriously considering taking my AR hunting this year instead of my Savage 110 (.270).

I had hernia surgery yesterday and the DR advised me to avoid lifting/carrying more than 20lbs for the next 4-6 weeks. My Savage weights just under 10lbs, while my AR tips the scales at just under 8 (with 5 rounds loaded). Add in the reduced recoil and the single point sling, its going to be easier to carry & shoot. The doc said walking/stalking would be OK, so long as I kept it slow, and took breaks often. Which is kinda what stalking is anyway. Ranges will be under 100yds, or I just won't take the shot.

My AR is a Spikes Tactical lower, and a Stag 3T upper, 5.56 chamber, chrome lined 1:7 twist.

I'm headed to the range next weekend, I'm hoping for some suggestions so I can see which shoots best.

Oh, I'm in WV, semis are ok to hunt with here.
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#2
I've never used .223 for hunting, but I've used the following types of ammo/bullets for varmint/deer hunting and they are around in .223:

The Federal Fusion in my 25-06 is devastating on groundhogs so I think the 62grn .223 might be something worth looking at.
Federal also makes the Partition load in .223, those bullets have also done well for me.

If you load your own, look into the Nosler Ballistic tips and Partition bullets, I'm pretty sure they make them in 60 or 62 grain .224

Sorry, best I can offer.
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#3
That is probably because PA will not allow you to hunt whitetail with .224.

To the OP, take a look at soft point (SP) for hunting. I'd recommend finding a 60+ gr bullet as well. Deer are thin skinned, but you want to get the heaviest SP you can find, since you have a 1:7 twist barrel, it will shoot any weight bullet you find. Just don't go too crazy and go 75gr and up because then you will probably run into issues with seating.

39Flathead;19779 Wrote:I've never used .223 for hunting,
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#4
I appreciate the feedback. I know .223 is only a marginal cartridge for white tail, I may end up toting the Savage around anyway, but wanted to explore my options.

Maybe I'll go to my local fun shop and see if they have any suggestions.
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aubie515;20009 Wrote:That is probably because PA will not allow you to hunt whitetail with .224.

To the OP, take a look at soft point (SP) for hunting. I'd recommend finding a 60+ gr bullet as well. Deer are thin skinned, but you want to get the heaviest SP you can find, since you have a 1:7 twist barrel, it will shoot any weight bullet you find. Just don't go too crazy and go 75gr and up because then you will probably run into issues with seating.

39Flathead;19779 Wrote:I've never used .223 for hunting,

Umm, you sure about that?
So .222 Rem, .222Rem Mag., .22-250, .22Hornet and .223/5.56 are all not permitted?
They are centerfires.
Other than Elk requiring a .27 caliber or larger and limits on muzzleloader diameters , where did you come up with this fact?

http://www.statehuntandfishregs.com/PA
Page 31 at the very top.



To the Op, the reason I didn't mention the heavy bullets (70+) is because they can have issues feeding from a magazine, I don't know what the above poster is saying when he says seating, unless he means getting handloads to seat far enough to properly feed, but this will also cause over pressure problems that I would be more concerned about.
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#6
No ballistic tip. You want a heavy soft-point. Anything that expands too early will only wound...

I'm looking for a single shot .243 for Mrs. Chaz and the girls, that might be something for you to consider as well...



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#7
Shot placement will be the determining factor, not the bullet type. You can use whatever bullet you want, but you will have to pass on marginal shots. Now before the flamethrowers come out, I have killed deer with a variety of firearms. 222 rem through 300 win mag.. The most devastating round I ever used was a 243 win loaded with 75 gr hollow points. I was shooting 150 yds and less so bullet energy was still high.
Proper shot placement killed like lightning. You just have to get over the shoulder shot mindset.

BTW the USDA is responsible for animal control at places like Gettysburg Nat park, airports & such places. They primarily use the 243, 22-250 and 223 for these shoots.
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#8
I got drawn for Coos whitetailed deer here in Arizona and I was hunting with my AR and used Hornady Tap ni 75 grain. Didn't shoot a deer but thats just what I used.

CL
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