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Remington MSR
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I'm hearing the US Military has entered into contract with Remington for a new Sniper Rifle.
We all know our Military was basicly working with Remington 700 platform.
The Remington MSR has kicked it up a step.
More like 10 steps. From the pictures I have seen, I would
guess, the stock alone is $2000. The complete Rifle $4000 to $5000.
Anyone have information: Price, review, so on ??

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Focus is military and law enforcement right now. Unit price from what I read, 15k for the whole thing.
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Looks pretty cool, but never heard of it.

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via Remington's website
Quote:A new level of surgical precision, the Remington Modular Sniper Rifle (MSR) was designed for operators by operators. It combines lethal accuracy at 1500 meters with a user adjustable folding stock, free-float handguard, and the potential to change barrel lengths and calibers within minutes at the user level from .338 Lapua Magnum to .300 Win Mag to 7.62 NATO. This patent-pending system addresses the long range and medium range needs of the modern battlefield in one package designed to meet multiple emerging US armed forces requirements. The MSR is mission-adaptable with just a change of the bolt face, barrel, and magazine, and features lightweight, efficient design and optimal material selection for performance and corrosion resistance – this system truly never has to leave the battlefield.
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Thats the picture & the rifle I saw.
I was way off on the price at $5000.
$15,000 is way--way out of my check book.

I would think they would have something civilian
on the drawing board with a better price tag.
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Pa.Bill;108693 Wrote:Thats the picture & the rifle I saw.
I was way off on the price at $5000.
$15,000 is way--way out of my check book.

I would think they would have something civilian
on the drawing board with a better price tag.

I'm not sure that that's the price. If it is the price, it's going to have to include the night vision unit with it. There's no way we should be paying $15,000 per rifle unless it includes the suppressor, night vision, and rifle. The rifle system looks interesting, particularly that it's switch barrel and folding. Depending on what you're looking for Bill, if $5,000 or not much above that is within your price range, there are some other options, depending on what your requirements for the rifle are. If you're not looking for something that is switch barrel, but has a modular style stock, there are chassis systems like the ones that McRee Precision, XLR, Accuracy International (Axe or AICS versions), and others. Some of the other systems are lots of hype, but those are a good place to start if you're interested. Some of those include versions that do allow for the stock to fold. If you're willing to go a bit more and are interested in something like a switch barrel system, you could also look into something like DTA's rifles like the SRS. I posted up some videos of that rifle a while back here, and was really impressed with it, and you get the benefits of the bullpup system.

I had also heard that at some point Remington was maybe going to release a version of just the stock that would fit the Remington 700. I've heard that for a while, but it hasn't happened yet, so I couldn't tell you if it was really going to happen or not. The MSR is made to be a switch barrel system, so it's different than a standard Remington 700. I hope that helps, or at least gives you some things to look at and consider. I like the MSR, but not even $7,000 like it, and would seek out some other rifles before I paid that for one.
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Tomcat088;112553 Wrote:
Pa.Bill;108693 Wrote:Thats the picture & the rifle I saw.
I was way off on the price at $5000.
$15,000 is way--way out of my check book.

I would think they would have something civilian
on the drawing board with a better price tag.

I'm not sure that that's the price. If it is the price, it's going to have to include the night vision unit with it. There's no way we should be paying $15,000 per rifle unless it includes the suppressor, night vision, and rifle. The rifle system looks interesting, particularly that it's switch barrel and folding. Depending on what you're looking for Bill, if $5,000 or not much above that is within your price range, there are some other options, depending on what your requirements for the rifle are. If you're not looking for something that is switch barrel, but has a modular style stock, there are chassis systems like the ones that McRee Precision, XLR, Accuracy International (Axe or AICS versions), and others. Some of the other systems are lots of hype, but those are a good place to start if you're interested. Some of those include versions that do allow for the stock to fold. If you're willing to go a bit more and are interested in something like a switch barrel system, you could also look into something like DTA's rifles like the SRS. I posted up some videos of that rifle a while back here, and was really impressed with it, and you get the benefits of the bullpup system.

I had also heard that at some point Remington was maybe going to release a version of just the stock that would fit the Remington 700. I've heard that for a while, but it hasn't happened yet, so I couldn't tell you if it was really going to happen or not. The MSR is made to be a switch barrel system, so it's different than a standard Remington 700. I hope that helps, or at least gives you some things to look at and consider. I like the MSR, but not even $7,000 like it, and would seek out some other rifles before I paid that for one.

Changing barrels -- you may just have the answer to why $15,000. They may be producing a 'kit'. A whole package, fitted form cases, with three barrels. Who know's, they may be setting up to change calibers also.
The price is to much for me. If I was younger and starting out - $5000 for something like that would be to bad.

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Pa.Bill;112559 Wrote:Changing barrels -- you may just have the answer to why $15,000. They may be producing a 'kit'. A whole package, fitted form cases, with three barrels. Who know's, they may be setting up to change calibers also.
The price is to much for me. If I was younger and starting out - $5000 for something like that would be to bad.

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If switch barrel is important to you, it definitely doesn't have to cost $15,000. If you don't want to do it in the field, all it takes in a pinned recoil lug, a barrel vice, action wrench, other barrel and bolt, and the gauges to check the head space. If you wanted to do it in the field, then you'd need something else. There's still no reason why it should cost $15,000.

You can buy a DTA SRS-A1 chassis and one caliber for less than $5,000. Then you can get the bolt, barrel, and magazine for other calibers for $1,400-2,000. then you can go from 6.5 Creedmoor all the way up to .338 Lapua. You can go with 6.5x47, .260 Remington, .308, 7mm WSM, and .300 winmag. If you choose a caliber that uses the same bolt face, you could just get the barrel, and you can get custom barrels in other calibers. I don't see why in the field you'd need more than 2 barrels, sometimes for 100 out to 800 or 1,000, and then another barrel like a .338 Lapua Magnum for the longer engagements.

Either way, the DTA SRS system can do it, and I've personally verified that it returns to zero at long range even after the barrel has been removed. You also end up with a system that is MUCH shorter because it's a bullpup system, and every bit a modular. I don't know how fast you can change barrels in the MSR because I've never seen any videos of it being done, just that the system is made to do it. I know for a fact you can change out the barrels in the DTA chassis in less than a minute and have a repeatable zero. The prices listed about are prices that any person can buy for a single rifle. I'm sure you could get them for much cheaper with a military contract, and promising to buy so many of a particular rifle. It's not that hard to cut some foam to fit a pelican case EXACTLY to the kit. I really just don't see how the rifle could cost that much even if it includes a suppressor and scope unless it also includes the night vision. Once you go that direction, you're into a completely different game.

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If you'd like to see us just remove the barrel, throw it back in and it hold zero, here's a video of us doing it with my buddy's rifle. You'll want to skip ahead to the 4:34 mark if you just want to see the barrel removal. We did it all in one cut so that there wouldn't be any doubts. There's some other videos of multiple cuts of people doing it.

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