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Emoticon;27941 Wrote:
billamj;27926 Wrote:I worked in the healthcare field for 20 years, the reason that I'm not there now is that my job was considered a duplicate during a merger and if I mentioned the names of the companies involved you would recognize them from what you are saying. I know all about the pharma side of the house, or at least what I could pick up in 20 years. You made a blanket statement that it should never be considered a disability, I know first hand that it can be. That is the bottom line. Do not make blanket statement regarding healthcare, you know as well as I do that as soon as you make one it will kick you right in the ass. BTW, it's Lisinopril Hctz, hard to believe by I'm taking it due to hypertension. Big Grin

Lol there is Lisinopril, Hydrochlorothiazide (don't rag on me if I spelled that wrong I haven't work there in years) and Lisinopril with Hydrochlorothizide together. They sell it one or the other or both together. The combination one is popular, but not as popular as the other two taken individually since the doctor can play more with the doses. Still I'm kind of splitting hairs there. You don't agree though that while there might be some people who have it much worse than others, more often than not people just use the "it's genetic" excuse for why they can't do anything about whatever problem they have rather than at least try to do something about it?

Never said that and I never will. One side of my family has had massive thyroid issues ad infinitum, however I doubt that's the reason for my lard ass. I worked in manual labor for the first 15 years that I worked, then I started working office jobs for the past 26. The problem for me was that the appetite stayed at the manual labor level and now I fight my weight every day. That's just me. There are a number of people out there even worse than that, for the vast majority of them it's just taking the easy route, but there are a number who do have genetic issues and that must be accepted.
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billamj;27944 Wrote:
Emoticon;27941 Wrote:Lol there is Lisinopril, Hydrochlorothiazide (don't rag on me if I spelled that wrong I haven't work there in years) and Lisinopril with Hydrochlorothizide together. They sell it one or the other or both together. The combination one is popular, but not as popular as the other two taken individually since the doctor can play more with the doses. Still I'm kind of splitting hairs there. You don't agree though that while there might be some people who have it much worse than others, more often than not people just use the "it's genetic" excuse for why they can't do anything about whatever problem they have rather than at least try to do something about it?

Never said that and I never will. One side of my family has had massive thyroid issues ad infinitum, however I doubt that's the reason for my lard ass. I worked in manual labor for the first 15 years that I worked, then I started working office jobs for the past 26. The problem for me was that the appetite stayed at the manual labor level and now I fight my weight every day. That's just me. There are a number of people out there even worse than that, for the vast majority of them it's just taking the easy route, but there are a number who do have genetic issues and that must be accepted.

I probably wasn't clear enough in this initial post of this branch. I still think the same though, but I will clarify what my original line of thinking was when I wrote that. My main concern, like I said initially was with self inflicted disabilities. Obesity by itself should still not be grounds for disability. If someone does actually have some actual verifiable medical condition, their disability should be determined by the cause of the symptom and not the symptom of the cause. If someone was bedridden because they can't move because of some underlying medical condition and as a result became obese the disability status should be placed upon them for that condition not because they are fat. On the other hand if someone wanted to eat 10 big macs a day, then 5 years later blew out their knees and now has to ride a jazzy all around and has since ballooned to 600 pounds because they never walk around anywhere anymore... People should not get disability for that as it was the result of poor life choices. We should not give a new liver to Joe the career homeless wino over little Suzie who was born with a dysfunctional liver, yet for some reason this line of thinking is ok when it comes to disability, and that's where my problem lies.
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Emoticon;27968 Wrote:
billamj;27944 Wrote:Never said that and I never will. One side of my family has had massive thyroid issues ad infinitum, however I doubt that's the reason for my lard ass. I worked in manual labor for the first 15 years that I worked, then I started working office jobs for the past 26. The problem for me was that the appetite stayed at the manual labor level and now I fight my weight every day. That's just me. There are a number of people out there even worse than that, for the vast majority of them it's just taking the easy route, but there are a number who do have genetic issues and that must be accepted.

I probably wasn't clear enough in this initial post of this branch. I still think the same though, but I will clarify what my original line of thinking was when I wrote that, my main concern, like I said was with self inflicted disabilities. Obesity by itself should still not be grounds for disability. If someone does actually have some actual verifiable medical condition their disability should be determined by the cause of the symptom and not the symptom of the cause. If someone was bedridden because they can't move because of some underlying medical condition and as a result became obese the disability status should be placed upon them for that condition not because they are fat. On the other hand if someone wanted to eat 10 big macs a day, then 5 years later blew out their knees and now has to ride a jazzy all around and has since ballooned to 600 pounds because they never walk around anywhere anymore. People should not get disability for that as it was the result of poor life choices. We should not give a new liver to Joe the career homeless wino over little Suzie who was born with a dysfunctional liver, yet for some reason this line of thinking is ok when it comes to disability, and that's where my problem lies.

I can agree with that line of thought as long as we are willing to ensure we take the medical/genetic line into consideration.
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