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Rules of engagement limit the actions of U.S. troops and drones in Afghanistan
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The new U.S.-Afghanistan security agreement adds restrictions on already bureaucratic rules of engagement for American troops by making Afghan dwellings virtual safe havens for the enemy, combat veterans say.

The rules of engagement place the burden on U.S. air and ground troops to confirm with certainty that a Taliban fighter is armed before they can fire — even if they are 100 percent sure the target is the enemy.

In some cases, aerial gunships have been denied permission to fire even though they reported that targets on the move were armed.


The proposed Bilateral Security Agreement announced Wednesday by Afghan President Hamid Karzai and Secretary of State John F. Kerry all but prohibits U.S. troops from entering dwellings during combat.

President Obama made the vow directly to Mr. Karzai.

“U.S. forces shall not enter Afghan homes for the purposes of military operations, except under extraordinary circumstances involving urgent risk to life and limb of U.S. nationals,” Mr. Obama pledged in a letter to the Afghan leader.

Ryan Zinke, who commanded an assault team within SEAL Team 6, said of the security deal: “The first people who are going to look at it and review it are the enemy we’re trying to fight. It’s going to be a document that can be used effectively against us. This is where we either fight or go home.
What’s happening is we’re losing our ability to fight overseas.”


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013...z2lrxrAetJ
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They don't want anything happening to the poppy fields. Imagine how much money the CIA would be out of if that shit got damaged.
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WWII lasted 3 1/2 years. This one's lasted 12 and now you know why. Liberal gobblygook.
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Pocketprotector;126900 Wrote:WWII lasted 3 1/2 years. This one's lasted 12 and now you know why. Liberal gobblygook.

Yes, it's amazing isn't it? The Axis Powers had millions of men fighting, tanks, air forces, navies and much more. The Taliban has no air force, tanks or mechanized units. They are a rag tag bunch with their AK47s, RPGs and IEDs. It shouldn't have taken this long by now to defeat such a pathetic enemy. I saw a PBS FRONTLINE program that followed a Taliban commander and his squad. All they had were their rifles, some grenades, their radios and motor SCOOTERS...yes scooters to get them to the battlefield.
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The time to bring our boys and girls home has long past.
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steelcityk9cop;126907 Wrote:The time to bring our boys and girls home has long past.

QFT.

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Jon Doe;126903 Wrote:
Pocketprotector;126900 Wrote:WWII lasted 3 1/2 years. This one's lasted 12 and now you know why. Liberal gobblygook.

Yes, it's amazing isn't it? The Axis Powers had millions of men fighting, tanks, air forces, navies and much more. The Taliban has no air force, tanks or mechanized units. They are a rag tag bunch with their AK47s, RPGs and IEDs. It shouldn't have taken this long by now to defeat such a pathetic enemy. I saw a PBS FRONTLINE program that followed a Taliban commander and his squad. All they had were their rifles, some grenades, their radios and motor SCOOTERS...yes scooters to get them to the battlefield.

Just keep in mind we still have troops in Germany and Japan....68 years later.
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Philadelphia Patriot;126917 Wrote:
Jon Doe;126903 Wrote:Yes, it's amazing isn't it? The Axis Powers had millions of men fighting, tanks, air forces, navies and much more. The Taliban has no air force, tanks or mechanized units. They are a rag tag bunch with their AK47s, RPGs and IEDs. It shouldn't have taken this long by now to defeat such a pathetic enemy. I saw a PBS FRONTLINE program that followed a Taliban commander and his squad. All they had were their rifles, some grenades, their radios and motor SCOOTERS...yes scooters to get them to the battlefield.

Just keep in mind we still have troops in Germany and Japan....68 years later.

Yeah, but not BECAUSE of the Jappos or the Huns.
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Jon Doe;126903 Wrote:
Pocketprotector;126900 Wrote:WWII lasted 3 1/2 years. This one's lasted 12 and now you know why. Liberal gobblygook.

Yes, it's amazing isn't it? The Axis Powers had millions of men fighting, tanks, air forces, navies and much more. The Taliban has no air force, tanks or mechanized units. They are a rag tag bunch with their AK47s, RPGs and IEDs. It shouldn't have taken this long by now to defeat such a pathetic enemy. I saw a PBS FRONTLINE program that followed a Taliban commander and his squad. All they had were their rifles, some grenades, their radios and motor SCOOTERS...yes scooters to get them to the battlefield.

I remember as a kid reading Soldier of Fortune Magazine and all the articles about the Mujahadine and the Russians... of the Ruskies couldn't eliminate them with no moral rules of engagement how do we think we would be able to?
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steelcityk9cop;126929 Wrote:
Jon Doe;126903 Wrote:Yes, it's amazing isn't it? The Axis Powers had millions of men fighting, tanks, air forces, navies and much more. The Taliban has no air force, tanks or mechanized units. They are a rag tag bunch with their AK47s, RPGs and IEDs. It shouldn't have taken this long by now to defeat such a pathetic enemy. I saw a PBS FRONTLINE program that followed a Taliban commander and his squad. All they had were their rifles, some grenades, their radios and motor SCOOTERS...yes scooters to get them to the battlefield.

I remember as a kid reading Soldier of Fortune Magazine and all the articles about the Mujahadine and the Russians... of the Ruskies couldn't eliminate them with no moral rules of engagement how do we think we would be able to?

Back then, we were supplying the Mujahadine with weapons, makes you wonder who is supplying them now.
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