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Sam Donaldson To Tea Partiers 'It's Not Your Country Anymore - It's Our Country'
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"Our" meaning The Communists. 2008 WAS a Coup de etat.

http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shep...re-its-our

Sam Donaldson went after the Tea Party this weekend.

During a discussion about 2012's biggest game changers on the syndicated Chris Matthews Show, Donaldson said, "The greatest slogan that I hated during this last campaign was 'We want to take back our country.' Guys, it's not your country anymore - it's our country" (video follows with transcript and commentary):

SAM DONALDSON: The minorities re-elected president Obama, but I'm going with Katty. It's the Tea Party and thinking of the Tea Party and people like that that are driving the Republicans out of contention as a national party. You cannot win nationally if you don't know something about the way the country's changed, and the Tea Party seems to think the country can go back 25 or 30 years. The greatest slogan that I hated during this last campaign was “We want to take back our country.” Guys, it's not your country anymore - it's our country and you're part of it, but that thinking is going to defeat Republicans nationally if they don't get rid of it.

So Donaldson like so many of his colleagues in the media believe that the movement that led to an historic Republican victory at the polls in 2010 will defeat the GOP if the Party doesn’t purge itself of such people and thinking.
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The parties aren't what they used to be. The "Tea Party" is basically old-school Republicans. The Republicans are basically old-school Democrats. The Democrats are now socialists. And the Obama-crats are communists or Marxists or something. Independents are turning Libertarian at a steady clip.

The two party system isn't really working so great anymore, because the country is so fragmented. Unfortunately the most fragmented section is the "right" which is why we are not doing so well in winning elections these days. Unfortunately, liberals will vote Democratic simply because its not Republican. But conservatives will not necessarily vote Republican, or even vote at all, because they are more picky. Picky can be good...but lately...it hasn't really been good at all.
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Speaking as a former Republican, I left the party when it went left. The more socialist/marxist/facist/communist the Dems went, the further the Repubs drifted with them, trying to buy votes. So now I'm "undeclared". I may reregister as a Republican though, so I can vote for the closest thing to a Libertarian as I can find in the primary.
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The important thing: how to get it back
"In 4 more OMao years you won't like how America looks....I guarantee it."
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Was he sober when he said this?
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RugerGirl;59080 Wrote:The parties aren't what they used to be. The "Tea Party" is basically old-school Republicans. The Republicans are basically old-school Democrats. The Democrats are now socialists. And the Obama-crats are communists or Marxists or something. Independents are turning Libertarian at a steady clip.

The two party system isn't really working so great anymore, because the country is so fragmented. Unfortunately the most fragmented section is the "right" which is why we are not doing so well in winning elections these days. Unfortunately, liberals will vote Democratic simply because its not Republican. But conservatives will not necessarily vote Republican, or even vote at all, because they are more picky. Picky can be good...but lately...it hasn't really been good at all.

Much of that fragmentation is along religious and social lines.

Republicans can't seem to keep their noses out of women's rights and abortion issues in addition to being intransigent on immigration issues. The right wing of the Republican Party effectively alientated a good portion of the female electorate because of their white male anti-abortion craziness. This almost certainly cost them the election.

But still it, will not change the fact that Americans just want to vote themselves free stuff as long as someone else pays for it. Unfortunately, this may have been the last presidential election where the socialists/marxists could have been stopped.

I don't see another Republican President. The most the Republicans can hope for is to hold onto the House (as those elections are local) to slow down the decline and fall of the country.
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MrPeanut;59149 Wrote:
RugerGirl;59080 Wrote:The parties aren't what they used to be. The "Tea Party" is basically old-school Republicans. The Republicans are basically old-school Democrats. The Democrats are now socialists. And the Obama-crats are communists or Marxists or something. Independents are turning Libertarian at a steady clip.

The two party system isn't really working so great anymore, because the country is so fragmented. Unfortunately the most fragmented section is the "right" which is why we are not doing so well in winning elections these days. Unfortunately, liberals will vote Democratic simply because its not Republican. But conservatives will not necessarily vote Republican, or even vote at all, because they are more picky. Picky can be good...but lately...it hasn't really been good at all.

Much of that fragmentation is along religious and social lines.

Republicans can't seem to keep their noses out of women's rights and abortion issues in addition to being intransigent on immigration issues. The right wing of the Republican Party effectively alientated a good portion of the female electorate because of their white male anti-abortion craziness. This almost certainly cost them the election.

But still it, will not change the fact that Americans just want to vote themselves free stuff as long as someone else pays for it. Unfortunately, this may have been the last presidential election where the socialists/marxists could have been stopped.

I don't see another Republican President. The most the Republicans can hope for is to hold onto the House (as those elections are local) to slow down the decline and fall of the country.

Republicans are not sticking their noses into women's rights.
It's all about taxpayers FUNDING their abortions and contraceptives where the Media has convinced the low IQ voter that its about their sick "right" and not the Money.
"In 4 more OMao years you won't like how America looks....I guarantee it."
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Uhm, it was a HUGE mistake to go on interview and claim pregnancy doesn't happen with rape.

You know what; it's just better to drop that shit completely than to even listen to the "government must legislate morality" business. Nobody seemed to remember the Women's Christian Temperance Union or the Anti-Saloon League, both comprised and dominated by white, protestant Evangelicals from rural areas who were anti-Jew, anti-Catholic, and anti-immigrant and were for President Hoover. They got their 18th Amendment thanks to slipping it in before the Census would have reapportioned Congress more towards the cities.

10 years later, the rural vote was gobsmacked by the cities which also had to deal with the huge fallout from Prohibition--namely the insane amount of crime that resulted by legislating "no alcohol" on everyone through an amendment, created bootlegging industries from coast to coast and actually helped cause more people to "sin" than anything imaginable.

Republicans have always done better when either casting no opinion on domestic morality issues or end-running them.

Make birth control pills OTC, and then insurance doesn't have to pay for it--including government insurance as well as VA/CHAMPUS and Medicaid. Done--solved. All this stupid legislation to force women to look at ultrasounds and shit isn't endearing to any voter younger than 35. They certainly aren't going to embrace that philosophy as they get older, either.

I would stick to libertarian issues that matter more--like gutting the Patriot Act, normalizing marijuana and increasing incarceration rates for violent felons in their place to check increasing crime rates in the cities, Federal right-to-work, stopping new free trade agreements that do not contribute to reduction of the national debt, increasing excise taxes on imported goods to help assist with debt payments, etc.
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ArcticSplash;59171 Wrote:Uhm, it was a HUGE mistake to go on interview and claim pregnancy doesn't happen with rape.

You know what; it's just better to drop that shit completely than to even listen to the "government must legislate morality" business. Nobody seemed to remember the Women's Christian Temperance Union or the Anti-Saloon League, both comprised and dominated by white, protestant Evangelicals from rural areas who were anti-Jew, anti-Catholic, and anti-immigrant and were for President Hoover. They got their 18th Amendment thanks to slipping it in before the Census would have reapportioned Congress more towards the cities.

10 years later, the rural vote was gobsmacked by the cities which also had to deal with the huge fallout from Prohibition--namely the insane amount of crime that resulted by legislating "no alcohol" on everyone through an amendment, created bootlegging industries from coast to coast and actually helped cause more people to "sin" than anything imaginable.

Republicans have always done better when either casting no opinion on domestic morality issues or end-running them.

Make birth control pills OTC, and then insurance doesn't have to pay for it--including government insurance as well as VA/CHAMPUS and Medicaid. Done--solved. All this stupid legislation to force women to look at ultrasounds and shit isn't endearing to any voter younger than 35. They certainly aren't going to embrace that philosophy as they get older, either.

I would stick to libertarian issues that matter more--like gutting the Patriot Act, normalizing marijuana and increasing incarceration rates for violent felons in their place to check increasing crime rates in the cities, Federal right-to-work, stopping new free trade agreements that do not contribute to reduction of the national debt, increasing excise taxes on imported goods to help assist with debt payments, etc.

good post up until the last few sentences of your last paragraph. most libertarians do not support stuff like free trade agreements and excise taxes. furthermore, some libertarians feel as though right-to-work laws are an infringement on property rights and contracts and I'd be in agreement with them.
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Pocketprotector;59161 Wrote:
MrPeanut;59149 Wrote:Much of that fragmentation is along religious and social lines.

Republicans can't seem to keep their noses out of women's rights and abortion issues in addition to being intransigent on immigration issues. The right wing of the Republican Party effectively alientated a good portion of the female electorate because of their white male anti-abortion craziness. This almost certainly cost them the election.

But still it, will not change the fact that Americans just want to vote themselves free stuff as long as someone else pays for it. Unfortunately, this may have been the last presidential election where the socialists/marxists could have been stopped.

I don't see another Republican President. The most the Republicans can hope for is to hold onto the House (as those elections are local) to slow down the decline and fall of the country.

Republicans are not sticking their noses into women's rights.
It's all about taxpayers FUNDING their abortions and contraceptives where the Media has convinced the low IQ voter that its about their sick "right" and not the Money.

I agree that taxpayers should not be funding abortions or contraceptives, but I think MrPeanut is right that social issues and immigration continually hurt Republican politicians. Mitt Romney got smashed up on the Latino vote for his presidency this year versus Obama compared to how well Bush did in 2004. I think Mitt lost something like 13-14% of that demographic compared to what Bush received in 2004. That's NOT how you win elections.
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