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San Francisco bans wood burning on Christmas Eve
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Sorry, San Francisco. No chestnuts on an open fire this Christmas Eve.

Bay Area officials have banned residents from burning wood, indoors and outdoors, on Tuesday -- and might extend the ban into Christmas Day -- as part of an air quality initiative.

The order came from a governmental body called the Bay Area Air Quality Management District. It issued a "Winter Spare the Air Alert," which prohibits people from burning wood, manufactured logs or "any other solid fuels" in fireplaces and outdoor fire pits.

According to KTVU, air quality officials said pollution was expected to hit unhealthy levels amid a high-pressure system.

"We want everyone to enjoy their holiday this week, but unfortunately, weather conditions are causing unhealthy, muddy air again," said Jack Broadbent, executive officer of the air quality district, according to KTVU.

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I've lived in areas where the air quality in certain weather conditions meant that the air was unbreathable because of wood smoke. I think it's a reasonable restriction, given their weather conditions and pollution levels.


Philadelphia Patriot;129697 Wrote:
Quote:San Francisco bans wood burning on Christmas Eve

Sorry, San Francisco. No chestnuts on an open fire this Christmas Eve.

Bay Area officials have banned residents from burning wood, indoors and outdoors, on Tuesday -- and might extend the ban into Christmas Day -- as part of an air quality initiative.

The order came from a governmental body called the Bay Area Air Quality Management District. It issued a "Winter Spare the Air Alert," which prohibits people from burning wood, manufactured logs or "any other solid fuels" in fireplaces and outdoor fire pits.

According to KTVU, air quality officials said pollution was expected to hit unhealthy levels amid a high-pressure system.

"We want everyone to enjoy their holiday this week, but unfortunately, weather conditions are causing unhealthy, muddy air again," said Jack Broadbent, executive officer of the air quality district, according to KTVU.

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My sister in Utah is experiencing some pretty bad air inversion right now.....but honestly....banning something natural like wood is ridiculous. If you don't like your air....move to the country, ya know?
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RugerGirl;129704 Wrote:My sister in Utah is experiencing some pretty bad air inversion right now.....but honestly....banning something natural like wood is ridiculous. If you don't like your air....move to the country, ya know?

I actually lived in a rural area of MA and the air inversions could create a ceiling that meant that wood smoke was dense and palpable. Rural or not, if there is pollution and the right weather conditions, it's not a good idea to add to it with unnecessary burning. And I know all about wood; we heated with wood and coal for years.
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mingomom;129698 Wrote:I've lived in areas where the air quality in certain weather conditions meant that the air was unbreathable because of wood smoke. I think it's a reasonable restriction, given their weather conditions and pollution levels.

These "reasonable restrictions" lead to things like in California how when you buy a TV you have to pay a disposal "fee"...by which I mean a slush fund tax at the time of purchase to the state of California, even though you may never actually dispose of the TV in that state. It's just another form of legalized theft from the people. The "reasonable" state of California has also banned lead ammunition in the name of "protecting the environment". California municipalities like SF currently if you are a landlord and don't provide your tenants with composting and recycling facilities, you can be fined for that. SF also pays people to root through your trash to see if you're separating your recycling properly, and if you don't, you get fined. Reasonable restrictions from the government remind me of "reasonable common sense gun control". There's a reason why they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions...

Once they get away with this here and there and get the people acclimated to it eventually they'll just do away with letting you use your fireplace at all. It's kind of like when e-filing taxes first came out and they told us all that we would never be compelled to e-file if we didn't want to send out all of our personal financial info across the wires...look at how that turned out. They simply straight faced lied to us any pretty much every intelligent citizen was fully aware they were lying to us at the time.
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RugerGirl;129704 Wrote:My sister in Utah is experiencing some pretty bad air inversion right now.....but honestly....banning something natural like wood is ridiculous. If you don't like your air....move to the country, ya know?

Doesn't really work that way. Cities don't have their "own air" neither do rural areas.

Houston, TX is still probably the worst US city for air pollution. San Antonio which is hundreds of miles away often finds itself locked down in air quality emergencies whenever Gulf winds blow inland and carry Houston's smog; where there's heavy crude oil refining along the coastline, through South Texas and combines with the moderate amount of pollution in San Antionio which is mostly from cars and 2-cycle engines and a few coal-fired power plants. The mixture creates a smog that's worse than what Los Angeles produces on an average August day when winds are light and humidity is heavy.


The yellow-orange tint in the air moves around to the rural areas. Since the whole region is flat--when you are driving and hit stretches where ranches and farms dominate the landscape you can see clear to the horizon---except you can't because of the heavy smog.



Then frequently there's fires either coming from the forests in New Mexico or from Mexico which is the most unusual thing---you walk outside and it smells like everything is on fire, because the air is filled with cinder ash carried long and far away. Add in an unusual mix of overzealous tree species in the region that produce heavy amounts of pollen (like Mesquite); and living there can be hell on Earth if you have allergies.


I don't get Cedar Fever anymore now that I live in PA. It's an allergy that seems to only be prevalent in Texas and parts of Mexico. Half my family comes down with it every year:

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Burning wood is how I heat my whole house, anyone who tells me I can't heat my house can go fuck themselves and their modern conveniences.
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bac0nfat;129774 Wrote:Burning wood is how I heat my whole house, anyone who tells me I can't heat my house can go fuck themselves and their modern conveniences.

Careful, apparently living without modern convenience is an evictable offense.
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bac0nfat;129774 Wrote:Burning wood is how I heat my whole house, anyone who tells me I can't heat my house can go fuck themselves and their modern conveniences.

So fuck everyone down wind of you? Nice.

Justin
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JustinHEMI;129776 Wrote:
bac0nfat;129774 Wrote:Burning wood is how I heat my whole house, anyone who tells me I can't heat my house can go fuck themselves and their modern conveniences.

So fuck everyone down wind of you? Nice.

Justin

A properly burning stove is not going to lower anyone's air quality. I'm not polluting nearly as much as those guys with gigantic cummins diesel engines. I'm not telling them not to use their trucks, so I would hope they don't tell me not to heat my house.
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