I'm posting this here because it is not "gun related". But, I did think it would be of interest to our members. Personally, I support the death penalty, though I do not support the lengthy appeals and review process that takes decades before a sentence is carried out.
If this is a subject of interest to you make your opinion know to your Senator.
Offered in the Pennsylvania Senate:
Quote:Regular Session 2013-2014
Senate Bill 1087
Short Title: An Act amending Titles 18 (Crimes and Offenses) and 42 (Judiciary and Judicial Procedure) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, prohibiting use of the death penalty.
Prime Sponsor: Senator LEACH
Last Action: Referred to JUDICIARY, Aug. 29, 2013 [Senate]
Memo: Repeal of the Death Penalty
PDF attached is the current text.
Brick, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
Far too many innocent people are killed.. maybe it's better than being locked up for something you didn't do.. Regardless I don't support the death penalty because it turns my stomach everytime I hear of one more innocent person getting killed because a jury didn't like them not because they did it
ExcelToExcel;117197 Wrote:Far too many innocent people are killed.. maybe it's better than being locked up for something you didn't do.. Regardless I don't support the death penalty because it turns my stomach everytime I hear of one more innocent person getting killed because a jury didn't like them not because they did it
^^^^This^^^^
I'd rather err on the side of life. It's also cheaper to lock them up for life than to pay for the 20+ years of automatic appeals (which I think is a good thing).
As for those who say we have no room for more prisoners, how many have actually been executed in the past 20 years? Better to make room by not locking up those criminals who could better spend their sentence working and doing community service than locked up at our expense.
09-01-2013, 02:01 AM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2013, 02:03 AM by ExcelToExcel.)
For the love of god I have no idea why we lock up anyone that is nonviolent. Probation or house arrest with freedom to work at the most. Productivity is far better than having someone that grew the wrong type of flower or stored lithium dangerously sit in jail for years... this stupidity is clear for all to see... the authorities are either stupid cruel or morons. Wait.. all three. Do so would eliminate nearly all incentive to lock people up for kick backs and free up room for the ones that should never be released like say oh rapists and murderers. .
09-07-2013, 10:17 AM (This post was last modified: 09-07-2013, 10:21 AM by Emoticon.)
ExcelToExcel;117197 Wrote:Far too many innocent people are killed.. maybe it's better than being locked up for something you didn't do.. Regardless I don't support the death penalty because it turns my stomach everytime I hear of one more innocent person getting killed because a jury didn't like them not because they did it
I want you to meet someone that has been living here in PA for quite a while...
My name is Mumia Abu Jamal. In 1981 I stood over top of an officer of the PPD and shot him in the head in front of several eye witnesses. I'd like to thank you for your support so that I can sit in prison for 30 years draining off the system instead of being fried like I was supposed to so that you can feel better about yourself since to anyone who actually followed the case there is no question about my guilt. BUT BUT BUT I'm a political prisoner because the system is racist because I didn't get off for murder like I wanted!!! Boo-Hoo!!!
I'm sorry, but evil people exist in this world. There are also many people out there too where there is NO QUESTION about their guilt take, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev of the Boston bombing as an example. These people deserve to be fried. I agree with you that we should not be frying people in cases where there is maybe very thin evidence, but for a lot of people on death row this is not always the case.
I have no problem with putting someone in prison for 30 years for [insert horrendous rape or murder here] instead of the death penalty.
Emoticon;117904 Wrote:
ExcelToExcel;117197 Wrote:Far too many innocent people are killed.. maybe it's better than being locked up for something you didn't do.. Regardless I don't support the death penalty because it turns my stomach everytime I hear of one more innocent person getting killed because a jury didn't like them not because they did it
I want you to meet someone that has been living here in PA for quite a while...
My name is Mumia Abu Jamal. In 1981 I stood over top of an officer of the PPD and shot him in the head in front of several eye witnesses. I'd like to thank you for your support so that I can sit in prison for 30 years draining off the system instead of being fried like I was supposed to so that you can feel better about yourself since to anyone who actually followed the case there is no question about my guilt. BUT BUT BUT I'm a political prisoner because the system is racist because I didn't get off for murder like I wanted!!! Boo-Hoo!!!
I'm sorry, but evil people exist in this world. There are also many people out there too where there is NO QUESTION about their guilt take, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev of the Boston bombing as an example. These people deserve to be fried. I agree with you that we should not be frying people in cases where there is maybe very thin evidence, but for a lot of people on death row this is not always the case.
09-07-2013, 10:27 AM (This post was last modified: 09-07-2013, 10:32 AM by Emoticon.)
ExcelToExcel;117906 Wrote:I have no problem with putting someone in prison for 30 years for [insert horrendous rape or murder here] instead of the death penalty.
Emoticon;117904 Wrote:I want you to meet someone that has been living here in PA for quite a while...
My name is Mumia Abu Jamal. In 1981 I stood over top of an officer of the PPD and shot him in the head in front of several eye witnesses. I'd like to thank you for your support so that I can sit in prison for 30 years draining off the system instead of being fried like I was supposed to so that you can feel better about yourself since to anyone who actually followed the case there is no question about my guilt. BUT BUT BUT I'm a political prisoner because the system is racist because I didn't get off for murder like I wanted!!! Boo-Hoo!!!
I'm sorry, but evil people exist in this world. There are also many people out there too where there is NO QUESTION about their guilt take, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev of the Boston bombing as an example. These people deserve to be fried. I agree with you that we should not be frying people in cases where there is maybe very thin evidence, but for a lot of people on death row this is not always the case.
I have no problem with spending someone else's money and making the government do things I like too in my own interest either, its the those other people who disagree with me that are the problem.
ExcelToExcel;117906 Wrote:I have no problem with putting someone in prison for 30 years for [insert horrendous rape or murder here] instead of the death penalty.
I have no problem with spending someone else's money and making the government do things I like too in my own interest either, its the those other people who disagree with me that are the problem.
It's definitely one thing government is made for, to get guys like this, off the street.