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Scaring the new guy
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Yesterday, I invited a friend to the range for Saturday. He has a Savage .22LR/20 ga over/under that's been up in his attic for years. I told him I'd check it out and clean it, and then we'd shoot it, along with a bunch of guns I'd bring. Then I let him know he shouldn't make any detours along the way, because it would be illegal to carry otherwise in the car.

Well, that made him nervous. He made calls to a few friends & relatives after getting off the phone with me. A former state cop and a game officer told him that the police would hold him and investigate if they saw the gun, that they'd assume he had it for nefarious purposes, that they'd want to see proof of ownership, that it was risky to travel through so many jurisdictions, that he could be arrested or his gun confiscated, blah, blah... They told him flat out, don't take a gun in the car. No matter that the law allows it. He's still going tomorrow, but without his gun.

It just makes me sick that these guys have him all worked up about transporting a gun for a legal purpose. And what really pisses me off is they're right - exercise your rights, follow the law, prepare to be harassed.
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I may be wrong about this, so please anyone correct me here, but as long as he transports a long gun with the action open and the ammo separate, he would be able to travel with it in his car and make a stop if need be without him breaking any laws.

Running out the door for work so I can not look up the statute at the moment, and if this is incorrect I will fix it as not to give wrong information.

Pretty shitty that they scared the guy.
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Sad, isn't it.

Wait, are you talking about Philly, or Butler?
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acosenza2;42968 Wrote:I may be wrong about this, so please anyone correct me here, but as long as he transports a long gun with the action open and the ammo separate, he would be able to travel with it in his car and make a stop if need be without him breaking any laws.

Running out the door for work so I can not look up the statute at the moment, and if this is incorrect I will fix it as not to give wrong information.

Pretty shitty that they scared the guy.


I believe you are correct. The restrictions scruff has referred to are for firearms as defined within the UFA. Also, I don;t recall ever seeing any specific instructions about the action being open, only that the long gun had to be unloaded, and ammo is a separate compartment.
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Curmudgeon;42969 Wrote:Sad, isn't it.

Wait, are you talking about Philly, or Butler?

He'd have been coming through 11 or 12 jurisdictions through Allegheny & Butler counties, with a cop behind every billboard, waiting to take his gun. Sad

On the bright side, I've got him thinking about getting his LTCF even before his first time out, so he won't have to worry about the stormtroopers.
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#6
If you really wanna scare him, ask him if he registered it.



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Emptymag;42975 Wrote:If you really wanna scare him, ask him if he registered it.



Wink

His "experts" probably already warned him about that, lol!

I figure after shooting some .22 fun guns and 9mm pistols at the Steel Paradise range and then doing some action drills with the AR's up the hill, we'll be coming to you to sign his membership application! Smile (I'm a couple of months short of being able to sign myself)
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(11-16-2012, 11:02 PM)Emptymag Wrote: If you really wanna scare him, ask him if he registered it.



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Or ask him if he likes movies about gladiators. Tongue

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scruff;42956 Wrote:... He has a Savage .22LR/20 ga over/under that's been up in his attic for years. ... Then I let him know he shouldn't make any detours along the way, because it would be illegal to carry otherwise in the car.

Well, that made him nervous.

Yes, you made him nervous, so your friend went and received MORE bad information from others, concerning transport of long guns. Having an LTCF doesn't apply to long guns, even in school zones. The long gun must be unloaded, ammo in separate container, and if passing thru a school zone, believe the long gun has to be secured.
I'm only here for the 'Foxes with Firearms' thread.

If they take our guns, who will protect our children?


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Gun;43032 Wrote:
scruff;42956 Wrote:... He has a Savage .22LR/20 ga over/under that's been up in his attic for years. ... Then I let him know he shouldn't make any detours along the way, because it would be illegal to carry otherwise in the car.

Well, that made him nervous.

Yes, you made him nervous, so your friend went and received MORE bad information from others, concerning transport of long guns. Having an LTCF doesn't apply to long guns, even in school zones. The long gun must be unloaded, ammo in separate container, and if passing thru a school zone, believe the long gun has to be secured.
OK, I got it, I misunderstood too. My bad.
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