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Philadelphia Patriot;107280 Wrote:Whenever people bring up the Founding Fathers, I think it's very important to point out that most of them (Federalists) did not want a bill of rights because they believed by writing down these rights, they were possibly limiting our freedoms in the future. The Supreme Court is known for proving this theory (although that was not the case today).

And to this day, most people think that the Bill of Rights is all-inclusive, and anything absent is not a right but a privilege.

They also believe that rights originate from the document, not that the document merely recognizes those rights.
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bac0nfat;107304 Wrote:
Philadelphia Patriot;107280 Wrote:Whenever people bring up the Founding Fathers, I think it's very important to point out that most of them (Federalists) did not want a bill of rights because they believed by writing down these rights, they were possibly limiting our freedoms in the future. The Supreme Court is known for proving this theory (although that was not the case today).

And to this day, most people think that the Bill of Rights is all-inclusive, and anything absent is not a right but a privilege.

They also believe that rights originate from the document, not that the document merely recognizes those rights.

True, and they should remember that those same guys drafted an earlier document that refers to "...endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights..."

The Bill of Rights doesn't establish rights that didn't exist before--- it codifies basic Human Rights.

That is why it is so brilliant.
gascolator, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Nov 2012.
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ArcticSplash;107288 Wrote:
gascolator;107275 Wrote:It is, by the way, quite likely that at least some of them were homosexual by orientation. And that even more, given the male society of the time, had had homosexual experiences. For the former, though, it would have been very likely that they would nonetheless have done their familial duty and married and fathered children. That was just how it was done in those days, particularly in the aristocracy. Which isn't to say that the straight men didn't have plenty of mistresses and the gay men their own assignations, both following the desires of the heart and the flesh.

The only Pennsylvanian ever to hold the Presidency...

was a gay dude. A quite fem gay dude. Which the society pages didn't do all that much work to disguise.

Everyone back then in Washington knew that "Aunt Fancy" referred preferred to Buchannan's "other half", William Rufus King, his live-in partner.

And he let it slip at a party when King was sent away as an envoy to France "I have gone wooing to several gentlemen, but have not succeeded with any of them" in close enough range for someone to write that shit down. (Even in 1844 everyone knew what THAT statement meant, and it wasn't in the context of Buchannan looking to score someone as a law client because he quit practicing when he left PA for Washington).

Maybe Pennsylvania would have another shot of sending a President to the White House if it wasn't for our backwater corrupt and grotesquely oversized General Assembly and our incessant fear of having anyone other than a dumb log as governor who's consistently 25+ years behind the times (look at our last 4 governors. See a pattern?).


I guess we'll never get ourselves out of this funk until enough of the Archie Bunker set die off. This state feels like a nursing home sometimes.

And he did a fabulous job. Either we are all equal, or we are not.

My only concern about homosexuality is that a gay couple doesn't move in next door. I simply don't have the time to keep up with their improvements to their home, and my house will look shabby and unkempt in comparison.
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Ten*K;107340 Wrote:My only concern about homosexuality is that a gay couple doesn't move in next door. I simply don't have the time to keep up with their improvements to their home, and my house will look shabby and unkempt in comparison.

Not to mention how sharp they dress and nice they smell. I know I'd look and smell like a freshly polished turd next to them at the neighborhood block party.
LostCyborg, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Jun 2013.

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