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Should SCOTUS Marriage Decision Open the Door to 50-State Concealed Carry?
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Erosion of states' rights, or a blessing for self defense?
Posted 23 hours ago in Legal Issues by Russ Chastain with 12 Comments

Following the recent U.S. Supreme Court (SCOTUS) ruling, which asserts that states have no right to ban marriage between homosexuals, some have been quick to extol the virtues of this heavy-handed measure. If no state can ban one activity because it is supposedly a right, then they must also be barred from restricting rights that are really protected under the Constitution. Right?

I don’t think so.

First of all, remember that the recent ruling is based on feelings, not fact. Facts say that the words “shall not be infringed” mean that the people’s right to own and use weapons, including firearms, cannot be restricted. Feelings say that background checks and licensure (registration) are suitable infringements because they make some people feel safer.

Amendment XIV
Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

- See more at: http://www.alloutdoor.com/2015/06/29/sco...46J3u.dpuf
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They had to manipulate language and reshape the meaning and definitions of words, and reinterpret the constitution, in order to make the ruling they did on gay marriage.

The 2nd amendment, on the other hand, is and has been abundantly clear since its inception.

What the latter lacks that the former has is judicial and media activists to guide public opinion in enforcing that which is already on the books.

I think its a safe bet to expect gun rights will become MORE eroded, if anything.
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It's really sad that my marriage license is good in New Jersey (and it is even from South Dakota), and my drivers license is good in New Jersey, but my gun license would get me thrown in jail in New Jersey.
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RugerGirl;167315 Wrote:It's really sad that my marriage license is good in New Jersey (and it is even from South Dakota), and my drivers license is good in New Jersey, but my gun license would get me thrown in jail in New Jersey.

You can take whatever gun permit you want into New Jersey. New Jersey just doesn't consider any of them legal, so you best not take a gun into that state under any circumstances; and they do have a habit of ignoring FOPA.

It only gives them out to retired cops and pols who then walk around with them downashore.

Because you know, a 70 year old pensioner who rarely discharged weapons on duty, with cataracts now, is far more trustworthy than a 45 year old Gulf War veteran with perfect vision and excellent marksmanship who used firearms daily but who wasn't a patrol cop in a shit boro.
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ArcticSplash;167350 Wrote:You can take whatever gun permit you want into New Jersey. New Jersey just doesn't consider any of them legal, so you best not take a gun into that state under any circumstances; and they do have a habit of ignoring FOPA.

That's pretty much the impetus for the SCOTUS case in the first place. It's gonna be an uphill battle applying it to gun rights; SJWs don't care about that.
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Should it? First of all, the Second Amendment SHOULD stand on its own. Secondly, the majority opinion, written by Justice Kennedy, included purposefully I believe, to specify that it applied to "human" rights. In essence, to suggest that this was not a choice, but being Gay is something you were born with, like: gender, age, skin color, and all the other anti-discrimination traits. The anti's will then argue that gun ownership is a choice.
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DeadEye;167400 Wrote:Should it? First of all, the Second Amendment SHOULD stand on its own. Secondly, the majority opinion, written by Justice Kennedy, included purposefully I believe, to specify that it applied to "human" rights. In essence, to suggest that this was not a choice, but being Gay is something you were born with, like: gender, age, skin color, and all the other anti-discrimination traits. The anti's will then argue that gun ownership is a choice.

Having a drivers license is a choice, as is a marriage license. You can easily ride a bike and stay single.
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RugerGirl;167421 Wrote:Having a drivers license is a choice, as is a marriage license. You can easily ride a bike and stay single.

Haven't you ever fallen in love with a car?? Wink
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RugerGirl;167421 Wrote:
DeadEye;167400 Wrote:Should it? First of all, the Second Amendment SHOULD stand on its own. Secondly, the majority opinion, written by Justice Kennedy, included purposefully I believe, to specify that it applied to "human" rights. In essence, to suggest that this was not a choice, but being Gay is something you were born with, like: gender, age, skin color, and all the other anti-discrimination traits. The anti's will then argue that gun ownership is a choice.

Having a drivers license is a choice, as is a marriage license. You can easily ride a bike and stay single.

In PA having a drivers license is a privilege and Penndot can take it from you at their discretion.
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goofin;167435 Wrote:In PA having a drivers license is a privilege and Penndot can take it from you at their discretion.

That settles it. I'm marrying my car. Get me on the docket at the SCOTUS.
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