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Sig p238 vs p938...aka .380 vs 9mm...
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I've finally convinced my wife that in her line of work concealed carry is probably a good idea, and we've been looking for something for her. She really likes the sig p238 (she has good taste imo, and I like the idea of having the excuse to buy an expensive gun without getting the raised eyebrow Tongue), I'm thinking the p938 might be a better choice though in terms of effectiveness if she actually ever has to use it though. On the other hand I want her to actually use it at the range and train with it. She's pretty small 5' 2" ~110lbs, she can handle the P226 ok, so she can shoot 9mm fine, but she doesn't like how stiff the recoil spring is when racking the slide is either. I'm also concerned that the lower mass of the P938 will amplify the recoil of the 9mm vs .380 to the point that maybe she doesn't want to use it on a regular basis, so perhaps the 238 is a better choice after all. Then again though I'd like to be able to share ammo without having to stock both.

Does anyone own a p938 or similar 9mm pocket gun to comment on this? What do you guys think about 9mm vs .380 for pocket guns? Thanks!
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How would she primarily be carrying these firearms? Also make sure carrying at her job won't jam her up, but regardless that is her personal decision.
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Philadelphia Patriot;105895 Wrote:How would she primarily be carrying these firearms? Also make sure carrying at her job won't jam her up, but regardless that is her personal decision.

IWB small of the back or pocket depending on what she's wearing, she just started her own business so that's not a concern Big Grin
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How does she feel carrying a single action in her pocket? I'm not saying it is an issue, but I know I've read on other threads/forums how a lot of people aren't too happy about that. My girlfriend lives in NJ, but when she moves to PA she's going to get her LTCF. I think the Kahr CM9 would be perfect for her. The Kahr CM9 and CW380 might also be consideration for your wife. The pistols are lighter and thinner. I'm not knocking down the 238 or 938, but the CM9 is what I have been looking into a lot for carry for my girlfriend.
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Philadelphia Patriot;105898 Wrote:How does she feel carrying a single action in her pocket? I'm not saying it is an issue, but I know I've read on other threads/forums how a lot of people aren't too happy about that. My girlfriend lives in NJ, but when she moves to PA she's going to get her LTCF. I think the Kahr CM9 would be perfect for her. The Kahr CM9 and CW380 might also be consideration for your wife. The pistols are lighter and thinner. I'm not knocking down the 238 or 938, but the CM9 is what I have been looking into a lot for carry for my girlfriend.

Personally, I don't think she'll ever really be interested in carrying +1, so SA/DA isn't much of a concern either way as far as safety is concerned. I'm just glad she's finally considering carrying something over nothing at all so at this time I'm not pushing the +1 issue at this time. She's ok with guns, just very wary of them. She doesn't even like to dry fire a double checked empty weapon or with snap caps. Too much "it just went off" indoctrination. Thanks for the suggestions!
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You might have her try out the new Ruger LC380 (the LC9, re-chambered for .380). Apparently it's gaining a bit of a following amongst the ladies.
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The P238 is a nice little shooter. There is one woman at my club that carries one and frequently has it out on the range. She has no problem putting shots on target with it. If I could get my wife to carry it is definitely something that I would consider trying to talk her into.

I've not seen a 938 in person but it looks pretty sweet in pictures.
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I'm also looking at the Beretta Nano for my girlfriend. Looks like another good pistol to consider.
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Emoticon;105900 Wrote:
Philadelphia Patriot;105898 Wrote:How does she feel carrying a single action in her pocket? I'm not saying it is an issue, but I know I've read on other threads/forums how a lot of people aren't too happy about that. My girlfriend lives in NJ, but when she moves to PA she's going to get her LTCF. I think the Kahr CM9 would be perfect for her. The Kahr CM9 and CW380 might also be consideration for your wife. The pistols are lighter and thinner. I'm not knocking down the 238 or 938, but the CM9 is what I have been looking into a lot for carry for my girlfriend.

Personally, I don't think she'll ever really be interested in carrying +1, so SA/DA isn't much of a concern either way as far as safety is concerned. I'm just glad she's finally considering carrying something over nothing at all so at this time I'm not pushing the +1 issue at this time. She's ok with guns, just very wary of them. She doesn't even like to dry fire a double checked empty weapon or with snap caps. Too much "it just went off" indoctrination. Thanks for the suggestions!

I own the p938 nightmare, the recoil is significant, but I have not compared it to a p238. If she is not going to carry +1 then one thing to know about the 238 and 938 is that if the safety is engaged & the hammer is up you cannot pull the slide back first without disengaging the safety.

With the hammer locked back you can freely operate the slide with the safety engaged, allowing you to both load it to +1 and unload it from +1 without disengaging the safety.

If she won't carry +1 then having a safety seems pointless, in my opinion, as with this particular design it adds an extra potential complication to the operation of the slide upon drawing the weapon. I'd personally go with one of Kahr's micro-pistols over the 938 if I wasn't personally carrying +1.
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IronSight;106035 Wrote:
Emoticon;105900 Wrote:Personally, I don't think she'll ever really be interested in carrying +1, so SA/DA isn't much of a concern either way as far as safety is concerned. I'm just glad she's finally considering carrying something over nothing at all so at this time I'm not pushing the +1 issue at this time. She's ok with guns, just very wary of them. She doesn't even like to dry fire a double checked empty weapon or with snap caps. Too much "it just went off" indoctrination. Thanks for the suggestions!

I own the p938 nightmare, the recoil is significant, but I have not compared it to a p238. If she is not going to carry +1 then one thing to know about the 238 and 938 is that if the safety is engaged & the hammer is up you cannot pull the slide back first without disengaging the safety.

With the hammer locked back you can freely operate the slide with the safety engaged, allowing you to both load it to +1 and unload it from +1 without disengaging the safety.

If she won't carry +1 then having a safety seems pointless, in my opinion, as with this particular design it adds an extra potential complication to the operation of the slide upon drawing the weapon. I'd personally go with one of Kahr's micro-pistols over the 938 if I wasn't personally carrying +1.

Is it a nightmare for any reason apart from the recoil?
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