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Sig p238 vs p938...aka .380 vs 9mm...
#11
Ah, well the 'nightmare' is just the name for the variation I have; in truth I really like the pistol. Overcoming the recoil is doable with a solid grip on the firearm, and it is manageable one-handed if necessary.

That said, my first two trips to the range resulted in some failures to feed due to a poor grip on my part; I have not had an issue with that occurring since then. That's still more issues than I've had with my P220, but that's not exactly a discreet carry firearm.

For an ultra-compact 9mm the 938 is, in my opinion, a good pistol. It will challenge you at the range but you can carry it without anyone knowing and you can shoot some of the hotter ammo out of it unlike many comparably sized guns.
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#12
My general thought on pocket carry is this....

If you're going to pocket carry, you probably want a .380.

If you're getting something in a 9mm, you might as well accept the fact that it's just going to be easier to belt-carry it.

Now that said, the Sig P238 is by all accounts a great little pistol, but it has enough heft and size such that you can pretty much get a 9mm only slightly bigger. It's actually longer stem-to-stern than the Kahr MK or PM series (which can be had in either 9mm or .40) but has a shorter barrel and a more anemic caliber.

If your wife wants to pocket carry, then a .380 like the Ruger LCP, Kahr P380 or Taurus TCP will probably be the best route to take. If she wants to belt-carry, then there's a treasure trove of 9mms, .40 and .45 single stack (or even double-stack) pistols available.

Since it sounds like your wife is ok with the possibility of belt-carry, she might want to take a look at one of the Kahrs, which are small enough to pocket. The all-metal Kahrs (like the K or MK series) are actually very easy shooters because of the weight, but still very small. Kimber Solo might also be something to consider....
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#13
Am I reading correctly that she will not carry with one in the chamber? If that's the case Kahr's are a no go. Can't chamber a round by racking the slide, at least not on the PM9 model. Haven't researched the others, but assume all the Kahr pocket pistols are like that.

If I misunderstood then I highly recommend the PM9 for pocket carry. Best trigger on a pocket carry gun imo.
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#14
Deal_me_in;106206 Wrote:Am I reading correctly that she will not carry with one in the chamber? If that's the case Kahr's are a no go. Can't chamber a round by racking the slide, at least not on the PM9 model. Haven't researched the others, but assume all the Kahr pocket pistols are like that.

If I misunderstood then I highly recommend the PM9 for pocket carry. Best trigger on a pocket carry gun imo.

I always racked the slide for my MK9. Never had an issue with it. Shrug

That said....I wouldn't carry any of these pistols without one in the pipe....
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Johannes_Paulsen;106207 Wrote:
Deal_me_in;106206 Wrote:Am I reading correctly that she will not carry with one in the chamber? If that's the case Kahr's are a no go. Can't chamber a round by racking the slide, at least not on the PM9 model. Haven't researched the others, but assume all the Kahr pocket pistols are like that.

If I misunderstood then I highly recommend the PM9 for pocket carry. Best trigger on a pocket carry gun imo.

I always racked the slide for my MK9. Never had an issue with it. Shrug

Maybe it's specific to the PM9 then. I found mine online a couple years ago for $500 which was/is a great price for that gun. When I got it home and went to load it I couldn't chamber a round by racking the slide. Maybe once every 7-8 tries it would work. I thought I had a dud, but I typed some key words in a search engine and discovered that it was designed that way. Have to load by releasing the slide, not racking it.
Deal_me_in, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#16
It's not as small, but the Springfield XD-S just started shipping in 9mm. Good luck locating one though!

When I work my wife up to carrying finally, I won't have a problem with her carrying 9mm or .380. Either is a good self defense round. I'd even be ok if all she only could/would carry something in .22LR. As long as she's comfortable, competent and confident with it I'll be happy.

Women definitely have more challenges I think when it comes to choosing a pistol to carry as well as how they will carry it. Women tend to be smaller than us, and it's always easier to conceal smaller pistols especially if you're smaller in stature. Inevitably though, its usually much harder to shoot a smaller pistol as well as you can a larger one, not that it can't be done, it just presents more of a challenge. They also tend to wear a variety of different types of clothing, so they really do need to be serious about carrying and make it part of their wardrobe.

Us guys can just strap a holster on our belt, and untuck our shirt or throw a jacket on and away we go... Well it may be slightly more complicated than that at times, or at least we like to make it so! This holster, that holster, this gun, that gun. IWB, OWB, pocket, ankle, where do I put my backup and spare magazines? bla, bla, bla, bla... Big Grin

I look forward to hearing what she chooses and how it works out!
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