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Small Fuel Storage Cans
#1
In regard to 1, 2½ and 5 gallon storage/transport containers for gasoline and kerosene, is there a law or other nanny restriction in place that prohibits using a kerosene can for gasoline ore vice versa?

In other words, if I have a blue 5 gallon plastic container with "KEROSENE" debossed on it, will anyone from gas station attendant to EPA (or other alphabet abbreviated agency) agent give me a hard time about filling it with gasoline?

It seems silly that this would even cross my mind, but in this day and age you have to question everything rather than assume that you can do what you want without interference.

The reason I'm asking is that in order to take full advantage of the gasoline discount available (30 gallon max, my tank holds 14 gallons, $1.00/gallon max discount, with a few cans I could save $30.00 instead of $14.00 each promo period), I need 16 gallons of storage to use it to it's potential. New 5 gallon gas cans are around $20.00 each, gas cans at yard sales seem to be rare but kerosene cans are fairly common.
I know proper labeling is important and some people get their panties in a wad about contamination but I'll put almost anything combustible into my gas tank in small quantities if it's cheap enough, a trace of kerosene isn't going to concern me.
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#2
I don't know if there's a law about it, but can I suggest that you do not do it. Putting the wrong fuel in the wrong container can definitely lead to problems. A couple years ago I borrowed a torpedo type heater to heat my garage in the middle of winter. The heater was meant to use kerosene, but someone had put gasoline in it.

When I started it up, it started to shoot 3' flames out the front of it, turning it off it was still burning. I had to use a fire extinguisher to put it out. When I returned it to whom I borrowed it from, they didn't know how gasoline ended up in it. I hadn't added any fuel because I didn't have a blue can to fill.

A mistake like that could end up very bad.
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#3
streaker69;103147 Wrote:When I started it up, it started to shoot 3' flames out the front of it, turning it off it was still burning.

Is this kind of event normal in Amish country? Sounds entertaining Big Grin
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streaker69;103147 Wrote:I don't know if there's a law about it, but can I suggest that you do not do it. Putting the wrong fuel in the wrong container can definitely lead to problems. A couple years ago I borrowed a torpedo type heater to heat my garage in the middle of winter. The heater was meant to use kerosene, but someone had put gasoline in it.

When I started it up, it started to shoot 3' flames out the front of it, turning it off it was still burning. I had to use a fire extinguisher to put it out. When I returned it to whom I borrowed it from, they didn't know how gasoline ended up in it. I hadn't added any fuel because I didn't have a blue can to fill.

A mistake like that could end up very bad.

I realize and understand how important it is to have things properly labeled. I would most definitely stencil on with paint the word "GASOLINE", it would be for my use only and on top of that I would think I'd know the difference between gas and kero, BUT if someone other than me should happen to get their hands on my cans they might ignore the alternate markings and as you say, a mistake like that could end up very bad.
I was raised in a time and place where anything and everything that could be reused was reused. A 5 gallon oil can sitting with gas cans was presumed to be gas in an oil can but you'd damn well better double check it rather than make an assumption. These days with everything color coded and "idiot proofed" the apparent need to be sure of what you're doing is passe, people just assume that everything is handed to them with paint by number expectations, no real thinking involved.

That's why I strongly caution anyone who wants to resize brass from one caliber to another, like .308 to 7mm-08. Yes, it can be done BUT the headstamp will not accurately indicate the new caliber. You know what it is but anyone else who might happen to come into possession (inheritance) may end up having a real bad day.

Fuel cans are easy enough to re-label to make the contents obvious in spite of color, or at least cause someone to be wary enough to double check.

csmith;103149 Wrote:
streaker69;103147 Wrote:When I started it up, it started to shoot 3' flames out the front of it, turning it off it was still burning.

Is this kind of event normal in Amish country? Sounds entertaining Big Grin

He's Amish, I'm redneck, I'll bet we could really entertain you without too much effort.
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#5
If the attendant is paying attention, they won't let you do it. I do not know if its law, but its probably to limit their liability, since they will probably just assume you're an idiot and not intentionally using the wrong cans.

Our local gas stations have signs posted for the red only, and I've seen the guy at giant yell at someone to get their cans out of their trunk before filling.
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Camper;103164 Wrote:If the attendant is paying attention, they won't let you do it. I do not know if its law, but its probably to limit their liability, since they will probably just assume you're an idiot and not intentionally using the wrong cans.

Our local gas stations have signs posted for the red only, and I've seen the guy at giant yell at someone to get their cans out of their trunk before filling.

A few years ago I stopped in at a Hess station to get some gas on my way to a PD to do some work. In front of me was a Mennonite woman with a pickup truck. She had the ATTENDANT of the station filling up 5 gallon buckets with gas while they were inside the bed of the truck.

After she left, I questioned him on the legality of it, considering that the pumps make it very clear that fuel may only be dispensed in approved containers. His claim, that these 5 gallon buckets that still had remnants of the paint stickers on them were approved containers. He then took off into the building.

When I got to the PD, which this station just happened to be in that jurisdiction, I made it a point of mentioning it to the Chief. He sent one of his officers right down there to chew them out.
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Camper;103164 Wrote:If the attendant is paying attention, they won't let you do it. I do not know if its law, but its probably to limit their liability, since they will probably just assume you're an idiot and not intentionally using the wrong cans.

Our local gas stations have signs posted for the red only, and I've seen the guy at giant yell at someone to get their cans out of their trunk before filling.

Thank you for the input Camper, I know that approved containers are required but didn't know if color mattered.
The issue was resolved this morning. I invoked a rule that my dad taught me many years ago, it's the 3 feet rule. If you want something and you're within 3 feet of someone, speak up. I was at the flea market and the only gas cans I saw were one and 2½ gallon with the exception of 2 bigger marine gas cans that were overpriced for my budget. I was talking to one of the regulars who was buying instead of selling this morning and mentioned that I'm looking for gas cans. He asked how big and how much do I want to pay? I said "5 gallon" and "not much". He asked "How about $5.00 each?". I said "That's good". Then he asked "How many"? I said "Two".
I met him at his place, on my way home and bought 2 5 gallon and a 2½ gallon.
Perfect, now I don't have to be concerned with a mixup or any other hassles.
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#8
About fifteen years ago my daughter woke me with a phone call at 2am, New Year's Eve/day crying to tell me, "Our home just burned down." My two kids were teens and living with my ex in what had been our home.

It seems the ex had a white can (that had originally come with a kerosene heater) filled earlier that day with what she thought was kerosene. The kid at the station filled it with gasoline while she sat in her car and assumed he'd fill it with what she told him she wanted.

That night, My son filled the heater's fuel can and lit it. The heater was in the basement and it lit okay as there must have been some kerosene left in the wick area. Then he went back upstairs.

The gasoline eventually fed into the wick and the heater did what Streaker described and the entire game room was engulfed in minutes. By the time the fire department got there half the house was destroyed and the smoke damage was everywhere. Luckily, everyone got out safely.

Since then, I never let anyone else put any fuel into a container without watching them. And, I only use colored and marked containers.
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#9
My wife was watching TV the other night and something caught my attention so I actually watched TV for about 10 minutes. It was John Stossel doing a show called Myths, Lies and Complete STUPIDITY!
The part that caught my attention was about gasoline cans. The company that was the largest producer in the United States, Blitz, was sued many times and finally went out of business. It gives a little bit of perspective on why things can be so expensive and sometimes hard to find.
Go to about 18½ minutes to see that segment, it runs about 6 - 7 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3wa0-NZmxA

The lawyer he's interviewing looks like he's from a science fiction movie, there's just something that doesn't look right to me.
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#10
Red Krylon paint would cover up all that blue. But again is it against the law? IDK!! Shrug
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