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Sober man DUI: Retired firefighter gets DUI for blood alcohol level of 0.000
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http://www.examiner.com/article/sober-ma...l-of-0-000

June 10, 2013
By: Tina Burgess

The sober man DUI news story is causing uproar. Getting a DUI for “D-W-B, driving while black," losing one’s license, and having one’s car impounded for a blood alcohol level of 0.000 is appalling. To top it off, the sober 64-year-old man who received the DUI was forced to undergo a painful examination on the side of the road despite having medical needs, and undergo a series of drug tests, reported 7 ABC Action News on June 9, 2013.

The sober man who was arrested for DUI because a police officer told him that “you look like you are drunk” is 64-year-old Jessie Thornton from Surprise in Arizona. Jessie Thornton moved to a retirement community in Surprise after retiring as a firefighter. Jessie Thornton’s wife is an ER nurse and works, as many nurses do, three 12-hour shifts. In order to be able to spend time with his wife, Jessie Thornton sleeps during the day and takes care of errands during the night.

"I've been stopped 10 times in Surprise and given four tickets, it's amazing," said Jessie Thornton.

In the latest incident, Jessie Thornton didn’t just get a ticket when he was stopped by police around 11 p.m. on Friday night for crossing the white line in his lane.
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If true, and I suspect it is (why would he lie about it), than that is fricking disgusting.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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'scuse me sir, do you know exactly how black you were driving?
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What does his prior occupation, his wife's work schedule, and his hip problems (that the officers are unaware of) have to do with any of what happened to him?

Nothing. They just make for a better read after the fact.
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Emptymag;105110 Wrote:What does his prior occupation, his wife's work schedule, and his hip problems (that the officers are unaware of) have to do with any of what happened to him?

Nothing. They just make for a better read after the fact.

Ever hear of shift work disorder? Trust me, it's a real thing. Because of your rotating shifts, random days off, etc. you feel tired 24/7 and have a hard time falling asleep at appropriate times too. I had it bad before, and I still have a mild form of it. I have a very hard time falling asleep at night, sometimes I'll fall asleep for an hour around 11pm, and then be up until 5:00am. Anyways, a lot of days I have heavy bags under my eyes and sometimes I look stoned or buzzed, but in reality I'm just tired. A lot of cops, firefighters, military personnel, nurses, etc. get it.

Also his hip problems were brought up because that might explain why he failed the field sobriety test. My father has a bad foot and knees. Hell, he'd probably fail a field sobriety test too even if it was months since his last drink.
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Emptymag;105110 Wrote:What does his prior occupation, his wife's work schedule, and his hip problems (that the officers are unaware of) have to do with any of what happened to him?

Nothing. They just make for a better read after the fact.

I think the hip problem is relevant to the potential alleged misconduct. If they ordered him to perform actions that cause him physical pain, and he told them that he has a hip problem that prevents him from performing the activity, they should have been able to accommodate him, rather than force him into uncomfortable positions.
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Maricopa County. Land of Joe Arpaio. Big surprise.
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streaker69;105109 Wrote:'scuse me sir, do you know exactly how black you were driving?

.... said deputy Billy Bob.


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You guys aren't hearing what I said.

While "health issues" may be valid, there is no way for the officer AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT to know any of these facts.



The info in the story helps to make for a more interesting story and makes him more of a victim. "Oh, those mean police treated this hero (former firefighter) like a criminal! He had a bad hip (How would they know this?) and they made him WALK!"

I'm mot saying that he didn't get treated poorly overall. I'm just saying that we only know what the writer tells us and we know more AFTER THE FACT than the officer knew at the time of arrest. This is key because you can't fault someone using knowledge learned AFTER the fact.

Hope that made more sense.
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Emptymag;105125 Wrote:While "health issues" may be valid, there is no way for the officer AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT to know any of these facts.

There is a way, but it's rarely taught in the police academy, and if it is, even more rarely practiced in the field.

It's called "listening."

Of course it's hard to listen when you've already made up your mind that the n***** is a perp, that he's guilty, and that he's a collar.

Let's hope that these cops who think they're also judge and jury get a very close look at what a real judge and jury look like.

Perhaps they'll even get to improve their listening skills.
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