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Soldier refused entry to daughter's school because he was wearing an Army uniform...
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More madness within the schools. This time a soldier was not allowed to see his daughter's guidance counselor and was refused entry to the highschool because he showed up in his army uniform, the reason for denying him? His military uniform might "offend" other students at the school. Utg

What's it going to take to shit-can this politically correct madness and endless double standards? It gets worse by the day. Everyone you speak to agrees for the most part that the path we are headed down in our schools is unacceptable. Everyone is too scared shitless to speak out because they might have to draw a target on themselves and possibly being branded an anti-progressive-agend-a-phobe. How big do you think this story would have been had the security guard asked a Muslim woman to remove her Hijab or Burka for fear of offending Jewish or Christian students? The entire staff would probably be fired and probably handed a life sentence worth of sensitivity training. CAIR would be there almost instantaneously raising a fuss.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014...school-be/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...udent.html
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Do you even read the stories or just go into outrage mode based on the title?

Rochester Schools Superintendent Robert Shaner, who is also a veteran, sent a letter to the Fox affiliate apologizing for incident.

Mr. Shaner’s statement read: “The district has apologized for any perception that individuals in uniform are not welcome in the school. The district does not have a policy excluding individuals in uniform and will be working with administration and the firm that handles our security to make sure district policies are understood and communicated accurately.”
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Dave;153710 Wrote:Do you even read the stories or just go into outrage mode based on the title?

Rochester Schools Superintendent Robert Shaner, who is also a veteran, sent a letter to the Fox affiliate apologizing for incident.

Mr. Shaner’s statement read: “The district has apologized for any perception that individuals in uniform are not welcome in the school. The district does not have a policy excluding individuals in uniform and will be working with administration and the firm that handles our security to make sure district policies are understood and communicated accurately.”

Maybe you're just a little dense before your morning coffee, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with regards to your initial failure of logic before I begin... It doesn't really matter what the school's policy is if their people just ignore it because that doesn't change the fact that it IS happening. It's obvious the school super has no idea what is going I under his watch with his security staff. It's entirely possible this has happened many times and this was the first guy to grab the ear of the media over it. It's just like how we have laws prohibiting illegal aliens from entering the country, but they're still flooding in anyway as the government ignores it's own laws and we've all seen how well that works out, but hey it's A-OK in Dave's brain because we have a rule on file that we just don't enforce. It's amazing how far you'll bend over backwards to justify this shit just to try to prove me wrong and troll. Better luck next time.Rolleyes

This is just the school administration trying to cover it's ass after someone brought what they were doing to light the cat had already been let out of the bag.
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Emoticon;153711 Wrote:
Dave;153710 Wrote:Do you even read the stories or just go into outrage mode based on the title?

Rochester Schools Superintendent Robert Shaner, who is also a veteran, sent a letter to the Fox affiliate apologizing for incident.

Mr. Shaner’s statement read: “The district has apologized for any perception that individuals in uniform are not welcome in the school. The district does not have a policy excluding individuals in uniform and will be working with administration and the firm that handles our security to make sure district policies are understood and communicated accurately.”

Maybe you're just a little dense before your morning coffee, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with regards to your initial failure of logic before I begin... It doesn't really matter what the school's policy is if their people just ignore it because that doesn't change the fact that it IS happening. It's obvious the school super has no idea what is going I under his watch with his security staff. It's entirely possible this has happened many times and this was the first guy to grab the ear of the media over it. It's just like how we have laws prohibiting illegal aliens from entering the country, but they're still flooding in anyway as the government ignores it's own laws and we've all seen how well that works out, but hey it's A-OK in Dave's brain because we have a rule on file that we just don't enforce. It's amazing how far you'll bend over backwards to justify this shit just to try to prove me wrong and troll.Rolleyes

I guess the Bucks superintendent should be fired, then, because a band teacher at Lenape middle school decided to have sex with one of her 14-year-old students. After all, it IS happening.
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gascolator;153713 Wrote:
Emoticon;153711 Wrote:Maybe you're just a little dense before your morning coffee, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with regards to your initial failure of logic before I begin... It doesn't really matter what the school's policy is if their people just ignore it because that doesn't change the fact that it IS happening. It's obvious the school super has no idea what is going I under his watch with his security staff. It's entirely possible this has happened many times and this was the first guy to grab the ear of the media over it. It's just like how we have laws prohibiting illegal aliens from entering the country, but they're still flooding in anyway as the government ignores it's own laws and we've all seen how well that works out, but hey it's A-OK in Dave's brain because we have a rule on file that we just don't enforce. It's amazing how far you'll bend over backwards to justify this shit just to try to prove me wrong and troll.Rolleyes

I guess the Bucks superintendent should be fired, then, because a band teacher at Lenape middle school decided to have sex with one of her 14-year-old students. After all, it IS happening.

I'm not familiar with the case,but if it went on in the school building during working hours absolutely he should be disciplined, maybe not fired, but it's his business along with the rest of the staff who report to him to know what the hell is going on in the school. Personally, I would think the honorable thing to do would be resign if that was happening in the school under his watch, but sadly hardly anyone is held responsible for anything anymore. The buck stops there at the school level at least when it comes to providing a safe environment for learning and if it turns out that a teacher is being able to abuse kids under your nose and you don't notice you bare some degree of responsibility for that happening. It's their job to know what their people are doing.
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I just have to say that I am agreeing with the posts you make, Emoticon, on the way our schools are really getting bad. There are good schools out there but some of these places have just swallowed the kool-aid hook, line, and sinker. They are more out to convince our kids of propaganda rather than teach them.

Now, I do like to read the articles and make sure they aren't just alarmist...for instance, there was an article a few days ago that said a girl wasn't allowed to wear her 9/11 shirt on 9/11. Outrage...but upon reading the article, you find it's a school that has a uniform (shirt with school logo) and that 9/11 was not one of the "off" days where students were allowed to wear t-shirts. Thus, this particular case was one of a kid thinking they could do anything they wanted. I do NOT agree with that, and feel our society thinks they can just break the rules as they see fit, because it is their fundamental human right. Ridiculous.

So there's a line, I feel, between kids needing to learn to obey authority (it must happen throughout your life to some extent), and schools just not freaking out over army uniforms, gun shaped fingers, lunches over 350 calories, and a prayer before a ballgame if approved by that local district.

I'm with Ron Paul on this particular subject...banish the Dept of Education, and allow states and districts to decide what goes on in their schools. And allow parents the freedom to leave a lousy district and enroll their kids in the school of their choice. The competition would shape up the bad schools.
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I read it.

So there isn't a policy prohibiting uniforms. It still happened.

Ruling on the field - Outrage stands.



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Oh and as a side note...my husband went to our local school district (which my kids are private schooled, and one is being homeschooled this year) to sign my youngest one up for swimming lessons. As he waited in line, he was looking at the elementary kids' work hung up in the hallways.

They had to write paragraphs. You would think the paragraphs would be about their vacation, or their grandparents, or their favorite hobby. But most of them were about recycling, global warming, world hunger, world peace..... REALLY? No, the propaganda going on is not obvious at all.....

I also am tutoring a middle schooler and working on essays, and at school she had written an article on racial profiling (i.e. Zimmerman case), and also she wanted to write on world hunger.

Most kids also love to write about how splendid our President is, and how much he does for us.

Geez. SMH. I mean, it's fine to throw all this stuff into a lesson at school, but the extent to which kids are taught to think along these topic lines is akin to brainwashing. IMHO.
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^^^ That's why our friend retired earlier than planned. She could no longer stand being a part of it.

The "indoctrination" is not imagined.
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RugerGirl;153728 Wrote:They had to write paragraphs. You would think the paragraphs would be about their vacation, or their grandparents, or their favorite hobby. But most of them were about recycling, global warming, world hunger, world peace..... REALLY? No, the propaganda going on is not obvious at all.....

In many cases it's even more subtle than that. I was working through a lesson with one of my kids yesterday and there was a section about immigration and some of the reasons people immigrate to other countries and in particular to the US. The narrator got to a point where they said "because of the free education". I stopped it there and explained to him that's not actually correct. While the education may seem to be free to the children, as in the money isn't out of their pockets, the money is coming from the taxpayers, like his mommy and daddy. We talked about it for a little while and he understood.
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