[Spacemanvic]

The discussion was regarding support of 2A in NJ and the extent to which people will defend it. This was my contribution to the discussion, thought to pass it along here as PA is now my home :

It's interesting.

I left The Garden State a while ago, and came back on here to gauge the tenor of NJ gun enthusiasts. Im finding that the acceptance of the assault weapons ban as well as the Democratic party influence is very telling. Ive yet to go to other NE corridor gun forum to make this a valid point, but from what I've read here, I dont see things much different than what the metrosexuals of their day expressed at the outbreak of the American Revolution, which makes me question my initial assumption.

Many areas of NJ were Tory strongholds, as was NYC. I dont think guns were as much in vogue in these areas then much like now, and there wasnt a Democrat party to influence. So, could it be the comfort of an urban area, or the mercantile class (in this case higher income) makes a population more accepting of authoritarian rule so as long as their comfort level isnt affected?

Im seeing a defeatist attitude being expressed here ensconced in a perceived "reality". Outside of the NJ bubble, 2A is doing VERY well, and Im beginning to think that an assault on 2A may very well be viewed for what it is: a blatant power grab. We've got the futility of the 84 gun ban's influence on crime statistics to illustrate that gun control, doesnt work, so there is precedent to say to the gun grabbers, NO.

It's also interesting that there are a few here that are espousing the idea to go to the table and talk to the gun grabbers and "compromise". It's only a compromise if BOTH parties give and take. Historically speaking, 2A adherents have gotten very little in return for past compromises to the Gun Grabbers, so why should today be any different? Compromise? No. To do so would only serve to further erode our rights (just ask NY state). Gun grabbers are punks, thugs. Giving a thug anything is like feeding a stray dog: they come back for more.

[Pocketprotector]

The discussion was regarding support of 2A in NJ and the extent to which people will defend it. This was my contribution to the discussion, thought to pass it along here as PA is now my home :

It's interesting.

I left The Garden State a while ago, and came back on here to gauge the tenor of NJ gun enthusiasts. Im finding that the acceptance of the assault weapons ban as well as the Democratic party influence is very telling. Ive yet to go to other NE corridor gun forum to make this a valid point, but from what I've read here, I dont see things much different than what the metrosexuals of their day expressed at the outbreak of the American Revolution, which makes me question my initial assumption.

Many areas of NJ were Tory strongholds, as was NYC. I dont think guns were as much in vogue in these areas then much like now, and there wasnt a Democrat party to influence. So, could it be the comfort of an urban area, or the mercantile class (in this case higher income) makes a population more accepting of authoritarian rule so as long as their comfort level isnt affected?

Im seeing a defeatist attitude being expressed here ensconced in a perceived "reality". Outside of the NJ bubble, 2A is doing VERY well, and Im beginning to think that an assault on 2A may very well be viewed for what it is: a blatant power grab. We've got the futility of the 84 gun ban's influence on crime statistics to illustrate that gun control, doesnt work, so there is precedent to say to the gun grabbers, NO.

It's also interesting that there are a few here that are espousing the idea to go to the table and talk to the gun grabbers and "compromise". It's only a compromise if BOTH parties give and take. Historically speaking, 2A adherents have gotten very little in return for past compromises to the Gun Grabbers, so why should today be any different? Compromise? No. To do so would only serve to further erode our rights (just ask NY state). Gun grabbers are punks, thugs. Giving a thug anything is like feeding a stray dog: they come back for more.

Fantastic post but, anyone comfortable in an Urban area anymore, well....I'm not quite sure how that can be.

Center city CHOP Doc comes to mind......and that creep was from Levittown.....

[Spacemanvic]

The discussion was regarding support of 2A in NJ and the extent to which people will defend it. This was my contribution to the discussion, thought to pass it along here as PA is now my home :

Fantastic post but, anyone comfortable in an Urban area anymore, well....I'm not quite sure how that can be.

Center city CHOP Doc comes to mind......and that creep was from Levittown.....

Thank you.

Most of those people are trapped there though. Trapped by family, jobs, wealth, comfort. I married a Pennsy chick and moved the hell out of Jersey, so very glad I did. Most of my family though is still there. Did tell them if the SHTF, they can come out my way....