pa2a.org


Share Thread:  
!%$#@ Stuck cases, hate's 'em!
#1
Had to work on the family Suburban, so wife took kids to church. Got done with car early, thought Id size some 223 cases before heading out after her. On case #20, dang thing stuck in the RCBS sizer die. My own fault, thought I had enough One Shot spray on the last case (remember, I was trying to sneak some me time before church). Rock Chucker stripped the case rim off like a spool of gold thread.

So, heading out, then when I get home, time to get the kit out to remove the stuck case.

FUN FUN FUN!!!
[Image: incubi+INK.jpg]. ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN no diff
Reply
#2
Spacemanvic;133498 Wrote:Had to work on the family Suburban, so wife took kids to church. Got done with car early, thought Id size some 223 cases before heading out after her. On case #20, dang thing stuck in the RCBS sizer die. My own fault, thought I had enough One Shot spray on the last case (remember, I was trying to sneak some me time before church). Rock Chucker stripped the case rim off like a spool of gold thread.

So, heading out, then when I get home, time to get the kit out to remove the stuck case.

FUN FUN FUN!!!

No matter what you're doing in life. You can never have too much lube.
Ammunition, it's the new lead bullion. Buy it cheap and stack it deep.
Reply
#3
Rik Bitter;133501 Wrote:
Spacemanvic;133498 Wrote:Had to work on the family Suburban, so wife took kids to church. Got done with car early, thought Id size some 223 cases before heading out after her. On case #20, dang thing stuck in the RCBS sizer die. My own fault, thought I had enough One Shot spray on the last case (remember, I was trying to sneak some me time before church). Rock Chucker stripped the case rim off like a spool of gold thread.

So, heading out, then when I get home, time to get the kit out to remove the stuck case.

FUN FUN FUN!!!

No matter what you're doing in life. You can never have too much lube.

According to my Lee reloading book, too much lube can deform the case when resizing.

Spaceman, are you making sure to thoroughly clean your cases before reloading them? Are you tumbling them or...?
Reply
#4
bac0nfat;133502 Wrote:
Rik Bitter;133501 Wrote:No matter what you're doing in life. You can never have too much lube.

According to my Lee reloading book, too much lube can deform the case when resizing.

I've never heard that before. Did they elaborate at all and explain how too much lube can deform a case?

Logically I can't think of why that would happen.
Ammunition, it's the new lead bullion. Buy it cheap and stack it deep.
Reply
#5
Rik Bitter;133503 Wrote:
bac0nfat;133502 Wrote:According to my Lee reloading book, too much lube can deform the case when resizing.

I've never heard that before. Did they elaborate at all and explain how too much lube can deform a case?

Logically I can't think of why that would happen.

I would guess that the grease hydraulics when a force is applied.

An example of this would be removing the pilot bearing on your flywheel. You pack the hole of the bearing with grease then insert a input shaft into the hole. Hit the input shaft with a hammer. The grease hydraulics and the bearing pops right out.
[Image: image.php?type=sigpic&userid=2638&dateline=1255032341][Image: 180-180-allied-light.png]

Trolls will be trolls. You know who you are.

Normanvin, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
Reply
#6
Rik Bitter;133503 Wrote:
bac0nfat;133502 Wrote:According to my Lee reloading book, too much lube can deform the case when resizing.

I've never heard that before. Did they elaborate at all and explain how too much lube can deform a case?

Logically I can't think of why that would happen.

Lube takes up space, and it theory you could have a situation where the extra lube has no place to go, putting excess pressure on the brass case. I'm trying to find it in the manual right now.
Reply
#7
Normanvin;133504 Wrote:
Rik Bitter;133503 Wrote:I've never heard that before. Did they elaborate at all and explain how too much lube can deform a case?

Logically I can't think of why that would happen.

I would guess that the grease hydraulics when a force is applied.

An example of this would be removing the pilot bearing on your flywheel. You pack the hole of the bearing with grease then insert a input shaft into the hole. Hit the input shaft with a hammer. The grease hydraulics and the bearing pops right out.

Isn't that because there's no where for the grease to go and it cannot be compressed? A brass case isn't sealed especially once the primer is pressed out. Even if it was sealed the case is just filled with air which is easy to compress.
Ammunition, it's the new lead bullion. Buy it cheap and stack it deep.
Reply
#8
Rik Bitter;133506 Wrote:
Normanvin;133504 Wrote:I would guess that the grease hydraulics when a force is applied.

An example of this would be removing the pilot bearing on your flywheel. You pack the hole of the bearing with grease then insert a input shaft into the hole. Hit the input shaft with a hammer. The grease hydraulics and the bearing pops right out.

Isn't that because there's no where for the grease to go and it cannot be compressed? A brass case isn't sealed especially once the primer is pressed out. Even if it was sealed the case is just filled with air which is easy to compress.

True, but the grease is on the outside of the case between the die and the case. Correct?
[Image: image.php?type=sigpic&userid=2638&dateline=1255032341][Image: 180-180-allied-light.png]

Trolls will be trolls. You know who you are.

Normanvin, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
Reply
#9
Whoops, it was in my Hornady Handbook of cartridge reloading, Third Addition, page 46:

Quote:Care must be taken that too much lubricant does not get on the shoulder region. Excess lubricant in this area will result in pressure within the die forcing excessive oil to leave small dents in the shoulder.
Reply
#10
Ive had that problem where too much lube can collapse a shoulder. Thats why I switched to One Shot. The lube didnt fail in this case, it was my rushing to get "just one more" done that did it.

I originally started with Vaseline, then a case prep pad, then the silver powder until someone tuned me to One Shot.
[Image: incubi+INK.jpg]. ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN no diff
Reply








Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

Software by MyBB, © 2002-2015 MyBB Group.
Template by Modogodo Design.